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    Constantine and the Christian Empire

    I don't know much about Constantine, but if that pic on the cover is any indication, he may have been a Jew.

    The most substantial biography ever written on the most important Roman emperor, Professor Charles M. Odahl has written a fascinating account of the life and reign of the first Christian emperor of the Roman world.Drawing on over a quarter of a century of research on sources relevant to the period and retracing the journeys made by Constantine across Europe and around the Mediterranean basin, this up-to-date biography provides students with a comprehensive knowledge of literary sources and research into the archaeology of the Constantinian era, and enables a more rounded and accurate portrait than has previously been available.Illustrated with ninety-two photographs and eight maps, Constantine and the Christian Empire will be the standard work on the man and his life for scholars, students, and all those interested in Roman imperial, early Christian, and Byzantine imperial history.


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    Was Hitler A Christian? (Mein Kampf Site)

    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Hitler
    “We don't want to educate anyone in atheism.” Table-Talk [p. 6]

    “An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal)...” Table-Talk [p. 59]

    “It seems to me that nothing would be more foolish than to re-establish the worship of Wotan. Our old mythology had ceased to be viable when Christianity implanted itself.” -Table-Talk [p. 61]

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    Franciscan friars gathered around some German soldiers

    Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler.
    Note Joseph Goebbels (far right) and Wilhelm Frick (second from right)

    A Nazi flag flies in front of the Cologne Cathedral, 1937

    The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

    Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signs the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933. Nazi Vice-Chancellor Franz von Papen sits at the left, Pacelli in the middle, and the Rudolf Buttmann sits at the right.

    The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the eyes of Catholicism, Christianity, and the world.

    Hitler leaving Church

    Hitler leaves the Marine Church in Wilhelmshaven.

    Hitler greets a Catholic Cardinal

    Church & State

    Hitler in front of "Church of our Lady" in Nuremberg, Sept. 1934. Photographer, Heinrich Hoffmann.

    Christmas 1944 with Nazi officers and their girlfriends.
    Note the German Santa Claus.

    Reich Bishop Ludwig Muller, Berlin, 1934

    Hitler greets Muller the "Bishop of the Reich" and Abbot Schachleitner

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    Re: Adolf Hitler was Catholic

    Bill Finck has a Mein Kampf site:

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    Re: Adolf Hitler was Catholic!

    I'll bet your modern Catholic would argue that he wasn't for some reason or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love777yah View Post
    I'll bet your modern Catholic would argue that he wasn't for some reason or another.
    I guess one theory is that they were occultists...

    Nazi Occult Leaders

    Nazi Leaders and the Occult.

    Occult Symbols of Nazi Germany

    Hitler's Supernatural Rise to Power?

    Hitler Removes Christianity

    Occultism in Nazi Germany: The SS.

    Occultism in Nazi Germany: Blood, Swastika and Wagner

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    Please click one of the Quick Reply icons in the posts above to activate Quick Reply. - Mein Kampf read online...

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    Adolf Hitler's view on Pagans and Paganism...

    Hitler on Germanic Paganism

    Submitted by wmfinck on Mon, 08/31/2009 - 10:51

    The following text is from pages 204 & 205 of Mein Kampf. The comments are in brackets and are made by William Finck,

    At that time it was very difficult to make the people understand that every movement is a party as long as it has not brought its ideals to final triumph and thus achieved its purpose. It is a party even if it give itself a thousand different names.

    Any person who tries to carry into practice an original idea whose realization would be for the benefit of his fellow men will first have to look for disciples who are ready to fight for the ends he has in view. And if these ends did not go beyond the destruction of the party system and therewith put a stop to the process of disintegration, then all those who come forward as protagonists and apostles of such an ideal are a party in themselves as long as their final goal is reached. It is only hair-splitting and playing with words when these antiquated theorists, whose practical success is in reverse ratio to their wisdom, presume to think they can change the character of a movement which is at the same time a party, by merely changing its name.

    On the contrary, it is entirely out of harmony with the spirit of the nation to keep harping on that far-off and forgotten nomenclature which belongs to the ancient Germanic times and does not awaken any distinct association in our age. This habit of borrowing words from the dead past tends to mislead the people into thinking that the external trappings of its vocabulary are the important feature of a movement. It is really a mischievous habit; but it is quite prevalent nowadays.

    [Here in the above paragraph it is clearly shown that Hitler considered any revival of Germanic paganism in modern times to be illusory and vain. The people today who claim that Hitler was a pagan of any sort are following propaganda of the catholics and jews, both of whom despise Hitler. It is clear from his writing that Hitler was a Christian, and that Christian ideas and principles permeated his thoughts.]

    At that time, and subsequently, I had to warn followers repeatedly against these wandering scholars who were peddling Germanic folk-lore and who never accomplished anything positive or practical, except to cultivate their own superabundant self-conceit. The new movement must guard itself against an influx of people whose only recommendation is their own statement that they have been fighting for these very same ideals during the last thirty or forty years.

    [Hitler despised the pagans of his time, and much of this is applicable to the majority of pagans of our own time. While they claim to be founded in ancient Germanic lore and principles, most of them bear no visible fruit in society today.]

    Now if somebody has fought for forty years to carry into effect what he calls an idea, and if these alleged efforts not only show no positive results but have not even been able to hinder the success of the opposing party, then the story of those forty years of futile effort furnishes sufficient proof for the incompetence of such a protagonist. People of that kind are specially dangerous because they do not want to participate in the movement as ordinary members. They talk rather of the leading positions which would be the only fitting posts for them, in view of their past work and also so that they might be enabled to carry on that work further. But woe to a young movement if the conduct of it should fall into the hands of such people. A business man who has been in charge of a great firm for forty years and who has completely ruined it through his mismanagement is not the kind of person one would recommend for the founding of a new firm. And it is just the same with a new national movement. Nobody of common sense would appoint to a leading post in such a movement some Teutonic Methuselah who had been ineffectively preaching some idea for a period of forty years, until himself and his idea had entered the stage of senile decay.

    Furthermore, only a very small percentage of such people join a new movement with the intention of serving its end unselfishly and helping in the spread of its principles. In most cases they come because they think that, under the aegis of the new movement, it will be possible for them to promulgate their old ideas to the misfortune of their new listeners. Anyhow, nobody ever seems able to describe what exactly these ideas are.

    [Well, the mead is usually good, the bloats are fun, and the girls think the tattoos, talismans and the runes are cool!]

    It is typical of such persons that they rant about ancient Teutonic heroes of the dim and distant ages, stone axes, battle spears and shields, whereas in reality they themselves are the woefullest poltroons imaginable. For those very same people who brandish Teutonic tin swords that have been fashioned carefully according to ancient models and wear padded bear-skins, with the horns of oxen mounted over their bearded faces, proclaim that all contemporary conflicts must be decided by the weapons of the mind alone. And thus they skedaddle when the first communist cudgel appears. Posterity will have little occasion to write a new epic on these heroic gladiators.

    [Here Hitler describes the pagans of his time as useless cowards. He continues his diatribe in the paragraph which follows. How do pagans today claim Hitler was a pagan of any sort? He clearly despised the pagans of his own time! Now, how do most pagans of today differ? What have they actually done to help save White civilization? They spend much of their time griping and attacking White Christians instead, and the other half is spent at drinking parties and sex-fests. Here is my challenge to pagans: Rather than attacking Christians, do something to help awaken your race out of its stupor, and lift it back onto its feet! Do something edifying and constructive, and then perhaps the value of your beliefs would be respected.]

    I have seen too much of that kind of people not to feel a profound contempt for their miserable play-acting. To the masses of the nation they are just an object of ridicule; but the Jew finds it to his own interest to treat these folk-lore comedians with respect and to prefer them to real men who are fighting to establish a German State. And yet these comedians are extremely proud of themselves. Notwithstanding their complete fecklessness, which is an established fact, they pretend to know everything better than other people; so much so that they make themselves a veritable nuisance to all sincere and honest patriots, to whom not only the heroism of the past is worthy of honour but who also feel bound to leave examples of their own work for the inspiration of the coming generation.

    [This is every bit as true today. Christian Identity is suppressed by the jew because it is feared. It represents truths that hit home hard when a jew comes across them. Christian Identity exposes the charades of the jews. The jews don't care about Asatru, Odinism, or any of the other variants of Germanic paganism. These are no threat to the jew! 1600 years ago, The jew and the pagan lived happily together. The jew even lived peaceably with the Arian Christian Goths, Lombards and Vandals. The jew cannot tolerate traditional Christianity, and traditional Christianity does not tolerate the jew. Christian Identity is the only true counter to the jewish lies and propaganda which pollute the world today.]

    Among those people there were some whose conduct can be explained by their innate stupidity and incompetence; but there are others who have a definite ulterior purpose in view. Often it is difficult to distinguish between the two classes. The impression which I often get, especially of those so-called religious reformers whose creed is grounded on ancient Germanic customs, is that they are the missionaries and protégés of those forces which do not wish to see a national revival taking place in Germany. All their activities tend to turn the attention of the people away from the necessity of fighting together in a common cause against the common enemy, namely the Jew. Moreover, that kind of preaching induces the people to use up their energies, not in fighting for the common cause, but in absurd and ruinous religious controversies within their own ranks. There are definite grounds that make it absolutely necessary for the movement to be dominated by a strong central force which is embodied in the authoritative leadership. In this way alone is it possible to counteract the activity of such fatal elements. And that is just the reason why these folk-lore Ahasueruses are vigorously hostile to any movement whose members are firmly united under one leader and one discipline. Those people of whom I have spoken hate such a movement because it is capable of putting a stop to their mischief.

    It was not without good reason that when we laid down a clearly defined programme for the new movement we excluded the word völkisch from it. The concept underlying the term völkisch cannot serve as the basis of a movement, because it is too indefinite and general in its application. Therefore, if somebody called himself völkisch such a designation could not be taken as the hall-mark of some definite, party affiliation.

    Because this concept is so indefinite from the practical viewpoint, it gives rise to various interpretations and thus people can appeal to it all the more easily as a sort of personal recommendation. Whenever such a vague concept, which is subject to so many interpretations, is admitted into a political movement it tends to break up the disciplined solidarity of the fighting forces. No such solidarity can be maintained if each individual member be allowed to define for himself what he believes and what he is willing to do.

    One feels it a disgrace when one notices the kind of people who float about nowadays with the völkisch symbol stuck in their buttonholes, and at the same time to notice how many people have various ideas of their own as to the significance of that symbol. A well-known professor in Bavaria, a famous combatant who fights only with the weapons of the mind and who boasts of having marched against Berlin--by shouldering the weapons of the mind, of course--believes that the word völkisch is synonymous with 'monarchical'. But this learned authority has hitherto neglected to explain how our German monarchs of the past can be identified with what we generally mean by the word völkisch to-day. I am afraid he will find himself at a loss if he is asked to give a precise answer. For it would be very difficult indeed to imagine anything less völkisch than most of those German monarchical States were. Had they been otherwise they would not have disappeared; or if they were völkisch, then the fact of their downfall may be taken as evidence that the völkisch outlook on the world (Weltanschauung) is a false outlook.

    Everybody interprets this concept in his own way. But such multifarious opinions cannot be adopted as the basis of a militant political movement. I need not call attention to the absolute lack of worldly wisdom, and especially the failure ...


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    Re: Adolf Hitler's view on Pagans and Paganism...

    I posted the above post both here on this thread as an original post and also on the thread titled 'Pastor William Finck & Christogenos' in category 'Bible Tools & Teachers'. I felt that the subject matter deserved a thread of it's own with a thread title that would make it easier to come across for those interested in reading it, instead of simply stumbling across it should they be in the above mentioned category and thread.

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