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    How did you come By Christian Identity?

    Were you raised as a Christian Identity follower or did you convert from another Religion denomination such as Catholic or Protestant or mormon,Baptist etc etc or were you an atheist before finding Christian Identity?

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    Re: How did you come By Christian Identity?

    I learned CI in prison.

    It likely saved my life as I've never been in jail since.

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    I was raised catholic and then I read the bible and then I attended a baptist church for several years.
    The catholics were very vague on salvation and the baptists were legalistic.
    I always knew jews were anti-christ and yet I couldn't understand why both religions said that they were Gods chosen.
    After stumbling upon Stormfront and researching some, I went to the CI section and found Pastor Visser and Pastor Downey which led me to Dr. Swift and Bertrand Comperet and others.
    Once I heard about CI theology and was shown the proof I was hooked or should I say SAVED.
    CI answered every question i had that the other religions were not able or wanted to.
    I am totally convinced that CI is the path that Jesus walked and wants me to walk.
    Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
    Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon View Post
    The habit of modern religious to interpret the Bible based on political and social trends and personal desires is not a new one.

    If we were to take the verse on "strangers in one's midst" literally, then we must also accept the blatant racism of Deuteronomy, Ezra, Nehemiah, and elsewhere. We must also accept the God-commanded genocide and God-ordained enslavement and pillage of foreigners.

    Another favorite trend of re-writers of the Bible is to ignore that the Bible says that Jews killed Christ. When the furor of Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ was at it's height, CNN released this ridiculous and likely Jewish-written "special" about who killed Christ with the unspoken aim of diffusing feared public outroar over the Christ Killers by deluging the United States in a blanket of Jewish propaganda. The show intentionally ignored the verses that outright said Jews did it while choosing to cloud the issue by leaning heavily on verses in the Gospels about the Romans arresting and beating Jesus. Of course the problem with this is twofold: 1) Jews agitated against Jesus and the Romans didn't give a rat's ass until Jewish leaders blackmailed them, and 2) 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 outright says that Jews killed Christ. Period.
    There’s a lot of great information in this thread.

    Should this be stickied?

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    I was raised baptist and spent some time with Worldwide Church of God. A friend loaned me a Pete Peters tape years ago and Ive been seeking out truth ever since. Christian Identity has saved my life in so many ways.

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    Re: How did you come By Christian Identity?

    Quote Originally Posted by malachi83 View Post
    Were you raised as a Christian Identity follower or did you convert from another Religion denomination such as Catholic or Protestant or mormon,Baptist etc etc or were you an atheist before finding Christian Identity?
    I was raised Byzantine Catholic. I moved out to Coeur d' Alene, Idaho in the early 90's. Hayden Lake was a short drive from Coeur d' Alene and I would drive up for services on Sunday mornings. Pastor Butler was very welcoming. When my work schedule permitted, I would drive up to Hayden Lake during the week, and just listen in awe, to Pastor Butler discuss, in great detail, many topics. A group of us would have lunch or dinner, depending on the time, or we would all go to this little cafe in Hayden. If I remember correctly it was/is called the Owl Cafe. I remember a number of the customers there would regularly greet Pastor with a genuine warmth, time and time again. Odd how those stories never were circulated in the media. Go figure. I have many fond memories of the time that Pastor Butler was gracious enough to share with a number of us, that I will hold onto forever.

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    A father who had three sons was desirous to test their discernment, which he did by giving to each of them an apple that had some part of it rotten. The first eats up his, rotten and all; the second throws all his away, because some part of it was rotten; the third picks out the rotten, and eats that which was good. The third was the wisest. Some in these days swallow down everything, rotten and sound together; others throw away all truth, because everything that is presented to them is not truth; but surely they are the wisest that know how to choose the good and refuse the evil, Isa 7:15.

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    Heirs of the promise - Sheldon Emry
    Explains who Israel is,the white race descending from Abraham,Isaac and Jacob/Israel
    http://www.israelect.com/reference/SheldonEmry/studies/ - Heirs of the Promise,you can also find ''An Open Letter to any Minister Who Teaches "the Jews are Israel" and Jesus Christ The Galilean and Who Are Israelites
    An Interview with
    E. Raymond Capt
    Emry: As a minister, I know there is an
    abundance of prophesy concerning the destiny
    of Israel. But there is no Bible history
    of this portion of Israel referred to in 2
    Kings 17:6 — In the ninth year of Hoshea,
    the king of Assyria took Samaria and carried
    Israel away into Assyria, and placed
    them in Halah, and in Habor by the river of
    Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes.
    So Bible history of this major part of
    Israel ends here. And yet the prophets and
    the New Testament promise an increase in
    numbers, great blessings, and an eventual
    restoration.
    With the passing of 2,500 years since
    this Assyrian captivity, one might think
    that all hope of tracing these Israelites is
    lost. Ray, can archeology answer this question?
    Capt: Yes, Pastor Emry, it has. During
    the last hundred years a number of archeological
    teams have been working in the
    Middle East. They have unearthed and
    published the original contemporary
    accounts of the Assyrians, who took the
    Israelites captive. It is from these records
    that vital clues have come to light. In fact,
    these records are found in the form of
    cuneiform tablets. These tablets were found
    at Nineveh in 1900 and published in 1930.
    However, their relevance to Israel was overlooked
    then, because they were found in
    complete disorder and amongst about 1,400
    other texts
    The tablets were Assyrian reports, dated
    about 707 B.C.. They describe the activities
    of the people called "Gamira," who lived in
    the land of "Gamir." The descriptions of
    Gamir described the area in which the
    Israelites had been placed just a few years
    earlier.
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    One tablet stated that when the king of
    Urartu came into the land of Gamir, his
    army was routed, as the Gamira counterattacked,
    entered the land of Urartu, and
    killed their commanders.
    Assyrian Captivities
    "In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king
    of Assyria took Samaria, and carried
    Israel away into Assyria, and placed
    them in Halah and in Habor by the
    river of Gozan, and in the cities of the
    Medes."
    2 Kings 17:6
    The first archaeological evidence to
    establish a chronological link in the contacts
    between Assyria and Israel are found
    on inscriptions on the side of a limestone
    stele found at Nimrud, known as the "Black
    Obelisk." The stone was inscribed with the
    records of Shalmaneser the third and an
    illustration of the Israelite king Jehu bringing
    tribute to the Assyrian king. An inscription
    above the illustration says: "This is
    Jehu (Iaua), the son of Khumri (Omri)."
    Omri in Hebrew begins with the consonant,
    "Agin," formerly called "Gayin" which
    was pronounced with a guttural "H," that is
    "Gh" or "Kh." The Israelites would have
    naturally pronounced Omri as "Ghomri"
    which became "Khumri" in Assyrian.
    As this inscription was executed nearly
    a century before the captivity of Israel, we
    know now the reason secular historians
    found no mention of the exiled Israelites in
    ancient records. It was simply because the
    Assyrians who took the Israelites captive
    did not call them by that name. Historians
    are now aware of the fact that the Gamira
    were the same people, who, about 30 years
    later, during the reign of Esarhaddon, king
    of Assyria, again were called Gimira.
    (Notice the slight changes in spelling).
    We find in another and later Assyrian
    tablet that in the second year of the reign of
    this same king, which would be about 679
    B.C., the Gimira, under a leader named
    "Teuspa," sought freedom by moving north;
    but the Assyrian army pursued and defeated
    them in the upper Euphrates district.
    Nevertheless, they reported a large number
    of the Israelites escaped to the shores of the
    Black Sea.
    The Greeks also recorded the same
    activity including an invasion of Sardis, the
    capital of Lydia, in 645 B.C. In their records
    they refer to the Gamira as "Kimmerioi,"
    which we translate into English as
    "Cimmerian."
    About 600 B.C. the Lydians drove the
    Gamira, or Cimmerians, out of Asia Minor,
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    where they settled in the Carpathian
    regions west of the Black Sea. We find them
    called in the second book of Esdras, the people
    of Ar-Sareth. 2 Esdras 13:40-44
    We now also know what happened to the
    larger body of Gamira or Israelites, that did
    not escape the Assyrians. They formed an
    alliance with Esarhaddon, the king, when
    he came under attack of the Medes and the
    Persians.
    This treaty allowed the Israelites to
    establish colonies in Sacasene in the north
    and Bactria in the east. With absolutely no
    help from the Israelites, Assyria fell in 612
    B.C. Soon the Israelites themselves came
    under attack by the Medes.
    Now those that had settled in Sacasene
    moved north through the Dariel Pass into
    the steppe regions of south Russia. There
    they became known by the Greek name,
    "Scythians."
    The Israelites that had settled in
    Bactria were forced north and east, and in
    the records of the Persians they were called
    Massagetae and Sakka.
    Archeology has solved two of the greatest
    archeological problems: First, what happened
    to the hundreds of thousands of
    Israelites who disappeared south of the
    Caucasus; and second, what was the origin
    of the Cimmerians and the mysterious
    nomadic tribes, known as Scythians, who
    suddenly appeared north of the Caucasus
    — both at the same time in history. They
    were one and the same people. They were
    Israelites. Now may I point out what the
    Bible has to say concerning these same people:
    “For lo, I will command, and I will sift
    the house of Israel among all nations,
    like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall
    not the least grain fall upon the earth.”
    ----- Amos 9:9
    Our history books pick up the story at
    this point, recording the westward migrations
    of the Scythians, as they came into
    collision with the Cimmerians, who had
    earlier settled west of the Black Sea. Their
    kinship lost over the centuries, the ensuing
    battles forced the Cimmerians west and
    north to become the Celts, Gauls, and
    Cimbri. By the end of the fourth century
    B.C., the Scythians had established themselves
    as the great and prosperous kingdom
    of Scythia.
    Later, the Sarmatians, these were a
    mixed, non- Israelitish people of Iranian
    origin. They in turn drove the Scythians
    northwest to the shores of the Baltic Sea. At
    this time in history, we find the Romans
    introduced the name "Germans" in place of
    the name Scythians, in order not to confuse
    the Scythians with the Sarmatians, who
    now occupied Scythia. Germanus, being the
    Latin name for "genuine," indicates the
    Germans were the genuine Scythians.
    During this time the Celts were expanding
    in all directions from central Europe.
    Some of the Celts invaded Italy and sacked
    Rome in 390 B.C. Another group moved
    back into Asia Minor, in 280 B.C., and the
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    Greeks called them "Galatians," as they did
    another group of Celts that had settled in
    Gaul, or modern France. This also indicates
    that Paul's letters to the Galatians were
    written to his kinsmen Israelites, or at least
    descendants of the earlier Galatians.
    Some of the Celts moved into Spain and
    became known as Iberes, the Gaelic name
    for "Hebrews." Others poured into Britain
    to form the bedrock of the British race.
    Later, the Iberes moved into Ireland as
    Scots, and later into Northern Britain to
    establish the nation of Scotland.
    Your history books also record the
    Germanic tribes breaking up into many
    divisions — the Angles, Saxons, Jutes,
    Danes, and Vikings, to name just a few.
    Other Germanic tribes later poured into the
    lands vacated by the Celts and established
    the Gothic nations of the Vandals,
    Lombards, Franks, Burgundians, and others.
    The so-called "lost tribes of Israel" really,
    were never lost. They only lost their
    identity as they migrated westward over
    the centuries from the land of their captivity.

    -Heirs of the promise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father of Six View Post
    The third was the wisest.
    Thus the third was chosen of God.

    "There is one body and one mentality, even as you also were called in one confidence of your calling, one Master, one persuasion, one baptism, one God and Father of all, He being above all, and through all, and in all" (Eph. 4:4-6 AST).

    Notice, he said, 'called in one confidence of your calling.' Now we know that "many are called, but few are chosen" (Matt. 22:14 AST). And we know Who does the calling and choosing:

    "You have not chosen Me, but I chose you out" (John 15:16 AST).

    What does this phrase confidence of your calling mean? It is in regards to resurrection unto life in the Anointed. Actually, if you haven't already done so, you should read the entire Book of Ephesians from the Anointed Standard Translation (AST). Paul was talking to the white ethnos who had formerly been outside the Commonwealth of Israel. He was telling them about the things of which they had not been aware in the past. He also explained how Jesus had broken down the walls that had separated white man from white man. He tells them about being resurrected into life and the new Christ-man being formed in our physical bodies.
    “The righteous mother of the seven children spake also as follows to her offspring: I was a pure virgin, and went not beyond my father’s house; but I took care of the built-up rib. No destroyer of the desert, or ravisher of the plain, injured me; nor did the destructive, deceitful, snake, make spoil of my chaste virginity; and I remained with my husband during the period of my prime.” (4 Maccabees 18:7-8)

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    Consider The Ravens [2010] begins to answer the question "What is Christian Identity?" by examining the importance of faith in the Word of Yahweh over the erroneous traditions of men. This sermon covers several of Yahsua's parables from Luke's Gospel 12:22-40 that all prove man can never be faithful enough but by arranging our priorities properly Yahweh will bless us with what we require.



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