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    Dual Seedline CI in Literature


    by James Reed

    Sometimes it is good for the soul to take a little “time out” and immerse oneself in great literature and the literature about those who write, and have written, great literature. I have just worked through two books on J.R.R. Tolkien (1892-1973), philologist and author, of among other works, “The Hobbit” and “The Lord of the Rings”.

    Humphrey Carpenter’s “Tolkien: The Authorised Biography”, (Haughton Mifflin, 1997) is a fascinating journey through Tolkien’s life, a life of Christian humbleness and devotion to scholarship. There are none of the affairs with women, as in Bertrand Russell; there is just the passion for writing and for truth. Tolkien played a role in converting C.S. Lewis to Christianity.

    In one such debate between Tolkien and Lewis, as both men puffed away at their pipes, Tolkien summed up his philosophy of life and literature: “We have come from God, and inevitably the myths woven by us, though they contain error, will also reflect a splintered fragment of the true light, the eternal truth that is with God. Indeed, only by myth-making, only by becoming a ‘sub-creator’ and inventing stories, can Man ascribe to the state of perfection that he knew before the Fall. Our myths may be misguided, but they steer however shakily towards the true harbour, while materialistic ‘progress’ leads only to a yawning abyss and the Iron Crown of the power of evil.” (p.147)

    Stratford Caldecott in “The Power of the Ring: The Spiritual Vision Behind the Lord of the Ring” (Crossroad, New York 2005) locates the Lord of the Rings in the great romantic heroic traditions of literature, weaving a modern mythology.
    Tolkien himself felt that the mythology of the Nordics (Northern European man) had been lost or buried by Celtic and French influences and one of his goals in “The Lord of the Rings” was to recapture living myths. As Tolkien said in one of his letters: “Legends and myths are largely made of ‘truth’.”

    Tolkien attempted to capture a spirit of Northern man and the mystique of “Northerness,” as seen in the Icelandic saga of the “Elder of Edda”. Through mythopoeic thinking, appealing to universal constants in human nature, Tolkien produced a modern work which was very much opposed to the moral relativism, absurdism and nihilism of much of the literature of the 1950s and 1960s.

    His world is one of moral absolutes, where good and evil clearly exist. Christian virtues are embodied in his characters such as Aragon and Frodo – integrity, sacrifice, justice, courage and mercy. All of this in sharp contrast to the anti-Western, anti-Nordic literature of today.

    It is not surprising that the Peter Jackson film version of “The Lord of the Rings” which, apart from the different (and vastly inferior) ending, captures some of the spirit of Northerness, and produced something resembling moral panic among the multiculturalists. Cultural diversity, it seems, is fine, so long as we Nordics, have none.

    If you are in need of having your spiritual batteries recharged from the grinding psycho-political warfare, there is always the work of Tolkien to turn to, a power source for the spirit!

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    Re: The Spiritual Vision of J.R.R. Tolkien

    The Scouring of the Shire
    by Greg Johnson

    After the destruction of the Ring and the downfall of the Dark Lord, Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin return to the Shire only to find that it has been seized by aliens who have enslaved and robbed the hobbits and ravaged the land.

    The returning veterans rouse their people to rebellion, killing many of the usurpers and driving the rest away. Then they discover who was behind it: the fallen wizard Saruman, who is banished from the Shire. Before he can leave, however, he is killed by his servant in crime, the treacherous Wormtongue, who is then felled by three hobbit arrows.

    This chapter was omitted from Peter Jackson’s film trilogy (as well as Ralph Bakshi’s animated version), although Jackson does allude to it in two places. In The Fellowship of the Ring, when Frodo peers into Galadriel’s mirror, he has a vision of the hobbits enslaved and the shire blighted by dark satanic mills. In the extended version of The Return of the King, after the fall of Isengard, Merry and Pippin discover that Saruman’s storehouses contain products from the Shire, indicating some sort of contact.

    But Jackson moved the deaths of Saruman and Wormtongue to the fall of Isengard. Wormtongue still kills Saruman, but he is dispatched by an arrow from Legolas. [see YouTube clip here] Thus when Frodo and company return to the Shire, they find it unchanged. Thus in Jackson’s telling, Frodo’s vision was just one possible future foreclosed by the death of Saruman at Isengard.

    Still, I think it a shame that “The Scouring of the Shire” was not filmed, for it is a potent political allegory that remains relevant today. Most commentators simply note that the Scouring is based on Tolkien’s personal experience of returning from the trenches of World War I to find England a changed place. But the Scouring goes far beyond anything in Tolkien’s experiences. It is a work of imagination, a political allegory that far more closely resembles the experiences of German soldiers returning from the Great War to find a radically new, alien-dominated regime.

    The Shire was subjugated as follows. After the fall of Isengard, Saruman was reduced to a wandering “beggar in the wilderness,” a refugee. But when he enjoyed power, the wandering wizard developed a far-flung network reaching all the way to the Shire, where he cultivated the friendship of Lotho Pimple.

    The Shire was an agrarian, autarkic society of independent small farmers and merchants. Pimple, however, was sufficiently alienated and ambitious that he wished to change this social order. He wanted more land than he could work himself, and he wanted hirelings to work it, so he could grow rich by growing cash crops for export. In short, he wanted to be a big shot with a plantation.

    By means of mysterious infusions of capital from outside the Shire (obviously from Saruman) Pimple managed to target economically troubled small holders for takeover (perhaps by loaning them money at usurious rates and then foreclosing when they could not pay), reducing them to employees on what was once their own land. Thus Pimple became a big man, styling himself Chief Shirrif and then just Chief. When Saruman and Wormtongue arrived as refugees, naturally Pimple took them in.

    Having elevated the rootless and greedy Pimple to power, Saruman cozied up with the Chief and began to institute a new order. He brought in racially indeterminate aliens to intimidate and terrorize the hobbits. He also recruited hobbits of defective character — people who wanted to act big and meddle in other people’s business (in the internet age, we call them trolls) — to vastly expand the police force. This was necessary, because Saruman also vastly expanded rules and regulations in order to yoke and mulct the hobbits. Naturally there was discontent, so a vast network of spies and informants was created, as well as a courier service to swiftly convey reports and orders. Dissidents were thus easily ferreted out and imprisoned.

    Society was collectivized. Private homes were replaced by ugly, cramped, ramshackle housing developments. Rationing was introduced to crush the hobbits’ spirits and lower their standard of living, freeing resources to be consumed by their new overlords or to be exported for cash. Leisure was restricted and work expanded. Handcrafts, which were fine for an aesthetically refined and ecologically sustainable subsistence economy, were replaced by heavy industry to produce exports for cash.

    This industry was fueled by wholesale deforestation and fouled the water and the air. But the desecration of nature went far beyond the bounds of even economic necessity, betraying a hatred of nature and beauty as such. Saruman’s real goal was less to create a new world than to destroy the old.

    Finally, to cement his rule, Saruman had his collaborator Pimple secretly killed once he had outlived his usefulness.

    It is simply an error to reduce this all to an allegory of the endogenous rise of capitalism in England. For the role of Saruman indicates that this process was far from endogenous in the Shire. Nor was it in England, for that matter. Saruman represents an alien influence, specifically the Jewish spirit — rootless, alienated, materialistic, and ultimately nihilistic — which is incarnated both in Jewry and its extended phenotype, Calvinism and low-church Protestantism. (It was the Puritan Revolution that brought the Jews back to England.)

    Yet Saruman’s takeover and elimination of Pimple does not resemble anything that happened in England. But it does resemble the revolution that deposed the Kaiser, followed by various Judeo-Bolshevik Putsches and ultimately the Jewish-dominated Weimar Republic. Furthermore, Saruman’s totalitarian system of spies and informants and his expropriation of small farms and seizure of their produce did not take place in England or Germany, but it did happen in Soviet Russia, leading to some of history’s greatest crimes against European man.

    Thus “The Scouring of the Shire” is a political allegory applicable not just to England but to all forms of Jewish subversion of traditional society.

    But it is also an allegory of how a people might regain control of its destiny. The hobbits have lost their freedom through salami tactics. Each day a little more of their freedom was sliced off, but not enough to cause a general rebellion, just a lot of passive grumbling, until finally, when the meaning of what was happening dawned on them, it was too late. Frodo and company, however, returned home after a long absence, and the change hit them all at once. It did not slowly demoralize and enervate them. It made them fighting mad.

    And as war veterans, they knew something about fighting. The Shire was also lost because the hobbits were disunited and fearful, ultimately because they had enjoyed a soft and easy-going lifestyle. Frodo and his comrades, however, had been tested and hardened in the crucible of war. They were not cowed by alien bullies, no matter what their stature. They immediately resolved to rally their people and scour the Shire of the usurpers. The hobbits had been long groaning under the new regime. The veterans were the spark to the tinder.

    A few opening skirmishes led to a climactic battle at Bywater, which left nearly 70 of the alien interlopers dead and the rest in chains or flight. Nineteen hobbits also lay dead. The hobbits then marched to Bag End to depose Saruman and send him packing without penalty. The prisoners were also sent on their way unharmed. These foolishly gentle policies toward murderers were justified by Frodo with effusions of moral and metaphysical clap-trap that remind us that, after all, this is children’s literature. Best we ignore him when our own enemies are at our mercy.

    The closest historical analogy to “The Scouring of the Shire” comes from Germany, where various Freikorps groups — militias of demobilized veterans — put down Judeo-Bolshevik Putsches in Prussia and Bavaria. Furthermore, the successor of the Freikorps was the NSDAP, also led and staffed by veterans, which finally put an end to the Weimar Republic. It is a model worth contemplating today as thousands of white veterans return from a Jewish-instigated war in Iraq to face 30 percent unemployment in a homeland overrun and despoiled by non-white immigrants. They are a constituency just waiting for a leader.

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    Re: The Spiritual Vision of J.R.R. Tolkien

    Before I read the article in the first post I had no idea Tolkien was a Christian, let alone that he encouraged CS Lewis to become one. Their conversations must have influenced each other's writing, since The Lord of the Rings and The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe both contain undeniable allusions to Anglo-Israel theology, with which they had to have been familiar.

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    Re: The Spiritual Vision of J.R.R. Tolkien

    I love ALL things Tolkien!

    His best work was The Silmarillion.

    Great thread, my precious.

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    Dual Seedline CI in Lit - H.P. Lovecraft

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    Dual Seedline CI in Lit - J.R.R. Tolkien

    The Silmarillion is a collection of J. R. R. Tolkien’s mythopoeic works, edited and published posthumously by his son Christopher Tolkien in 1977, with assistance from Guy Gavriel Kay, who later became a noted fantasy writer. The Silmarillion, along with J. R. R. Tolkien’s other works, forms a comprehensive, yet incomplete, narrative that describes the universe of Middle-earth within which The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings take place. After the success of The Hobbit, and prior to the publication of The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien’s publisher requested a sequel to The Hobbit, and Tolkien sent them an early draft of The Silmarillion. But through a misunderstanding, the publisher rejected the draft without fully reading it, with the result that Tolkien began work on “A Long Expected Party”, the first chapter of what he described at the time as “a new story about Hobbits”, which became The Lord of the Rings. The Silmarillion comprises five parts.

    Silmarillion is a collection of tales by JRR Tolkien, edited and published after the author’s death by his son, Christopher Tolkien.

    The Silmarillion chronicles the history of Tolkien’s created world, from the “Creation” to the events leading up the “The War of the Ring”, the events chronicled in The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.

    The tales are a collection of writings whose concepts date back to as early as 1914, when Tolkien’s appears to have written some of the early drafts of his “Middle-earth Mythologies”. It was a labor which, as his son and editor Christopher Tolkien stated in the forward, “throughout my father’s long life he never abandoned…nor ceased even in his last years to work on” (TS pg. vii).

    The Silmarillion is comprised of five parts:

    •The Ainulindale – “The Music of the Ainur " – This part is a description of the “Creation” of Ea (the World) from the mind of Illuvatar (the One), resembling in many ways the Biblical Creation story.

    •Valaquenta - “Account of the Valar and Maiar according to the lore of the Eldar” – The “Valaquenta” is a brief description of the Valar and the Maiar, two sets of “godlike” figures that rule over and assist Illuvatar in the creation of Ea. These figures are rather like a pantheon of “undergods”. They rule at and by the will of Illuvatar.

    •Quenta Silmarillion - “The History of the Silmarils” – The “Quenta Silmarillion” comprises the vast majority of the book, and is broken into twenty-four separate chapters. This section concerns the bulk of the history of Ea, from the coming of the elves to the War of Wrath and the end of the First Age.

    The tales told in this section on in various stages of development. Some are told in exquisite and beautiful detail, others are little more than generalized outlines of stories. This section includes the most important and recognizable tales in the book:

    •“Of the Silmarils and the Unrest of the Noldor”

    •“Of the Flight of the Noldor”

    •“Of Beren and Luthien”

    •“Of Turin Turambar ”

    •“Of Tuor and the Fall of Gondolin

    •Akallabeth - “The Downfall of Numenor” – Concerning the human island-kingdom of Numenor, its beauties, ambitions, and eventual downfall.

    •Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age - Comprises a description of the events prior to and leading up to the events chronicled in The Lord of the Rings, including the conception of the Rings of Power; the coming of the Dunedain to Middle-earth; and the last alliance of Men and Elves.


    As mentioned above, the first concepts in The Silmarillion date back possibly as early as 1914/15. Certainly, some of the early manuscripts containing the “Lost Tales” of Middle-earth (as Tolkien often called them), date back to late 1916 and early 1917, when Tolkien had returned from World War I France with “Trench Fever”.

    Tolkien had several reasons for beginning this cycle of “mythological” stories. One was his love of language. He began developing a language (loosely based on Finnish), and realized that his created language was irrelevant unless he could create someone to speak it. Middle-earth was, he stated to his publisher in 1955, “fundamentally linguistic in inspiration” (Letters pg. 219).

    The stories themselves were meant to comprise something of a “mythology for England”, and were originally much more closely linked to English history and culture than they became in the end.

    In 1938, after the initial success of The Hobbit, Tolkien submitted an incomplete draft of The Silmarillion to George Allen & Unwin, his publishers, thinking they may have some interest in publishing it.

    The publishers found the text too obscure and dense, and asked instead for something more along the lines of a sequel to The Hobbit. Tolkien turned his attention to this, and the result was The Lord of the Rings, published in 1954/55, and generally considered to be Tolkien’s masterpiece.

    But The Lord of the Rings found itself straddling the line somewhere between The Hobbit and the earlier stories of The Silmarillion. It had neatly pulled the older world of The Silmarillion into the world of The Hobbit, merging the two. Thus the tales of The Silmarillion becomes the ancient background against which these two tales are told, creating “glimpses of a large history in the background” as Tolkien stated in a 1963 letter (Letters of JRR Tolkien pg. 333).

    After the publication and immense success of The Lord of the Rings in the mid-1950’s Tolkien returned to The Silmarillion with the intention of polishing and collecting the stories for publication.

    He worked intermittently on the text for the next fifteen years, but was troubled and slowed by some doubts about certain aspects of the stories. He was committed to making the stories as completely consistent with the already-published stories of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings as possible.

    Instead of working on the narrative and the tales themselves, Tolkien resolved to work out the minor issues he perceived within the text itself…unanswered questions that were bound to be asked, ideas which he had not fully developed. He later despaired that it would ever be ready for publication.


    JRR Tolkien died in 1973 with The Silmarillion still unfinished and unpublished. The demand for more books on his “created world” of Ea and Middle-earth was, however, greater than ever.

    Professor Tolkien’s son, Christopher Tolkien, undertook to organize and compile the narrative for publication. He found the manuscript very disordered an in some stages incomplete.

    Over the next several years he slogged through the remaining manuscripts and hammered out the single, cohesive narrative that is today known as The Silmarillion.

    Many of the unfinished tales, texts, and narratives – as well some of the stories in which there were earlier or divergent versions - that comprised the mythology were necessarily omitted from The Silmarillion and only published later as part of Unfinished Tales or the twelve-volume History of Middle-earth.

    Because of the variance of The Silmarillion with many of the later-published tales, some critics have argued that Christopher Tolkien took unwarranted liberties with his own ideas and that The Silmarillion is as much a work of the son as of the father.

    Either way, The Silmarillion stands in its place at the root of the Tolkien canon, the soil from which the more famous tales of The Hobbit, and especially The Lord of the Rings, grew.
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    Re: Dual Seedline CI in Lit - H.P. Lovecraft

    One of my all-time faves...

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    Re: Dual Seedline CI in Lit - J.R.R. Tolkien

    Not sure what to think of this - shouldn't he be blaming Peter Jackson and not Tolkien?

    J.R.R. Tolkien: Lover of Jews, Hater of the German People
    by: Andrew Anglin | January 8, 2014

    J.R.R. Tolkien: What right hast thou?

    What with the new movie out , it seems appropriate to comment on Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit writer J.R.R. Tolkien’s love for the Jewish parasite, and his aggression toward the valiant, noble German Reich.

    Firstly, I will note that I read the Hobbit as a boy, and enjoyed it quite a bit, but when I attempted to read the LotR trilogy, found myself too bored to make it through the second book (The Twin Towers). I think that, largely, the books are good, in that they deal fairly with Norse myth, and present a generally positive message for the kids. Of course, novel reading is a dead art, so it doesn’t much matter now.

    Still, the Germans were well within their rights to question the racial identity of Tolkien, in that they did not want to have any Jewish filth slipped into the mind of the youth.

    In 1938, after having been in discussions regarding a German translation of the Hobbit, the German publisher Rütten & Loening asked for confirmation of Tokien’s Aryan heritage. This upset the poor old chap, and he wrote the following to his friend and publisher Stanley Unwin:

    I must say the enclosed letter from Rütten & Loening is a bit stiff. Do I suffer this impertinence because of the possession of a German name, or do their lunatic laws require a certificate of arisch origin from all persons of all countries?

    Personally, I should be inclined to refuse to give any Bestätigung (although it happens that I can), and let a German translation go hang. In any case I should object strongly to any such declaration appearing in print. I do not regard the (probable) absence of all Jewish blood as necessarily honourable; and I have many Jewish friends, and should regret giving any colour to the notion that I subscribed to the wholly pernicious and unscientific race-doctrine.

    You are primarily concerned, and I cannot jeopardize the chance of a German publication without your approval. So I submit two drafts of possible answers.

    You read that correctly. Even in 1938, this chap had the nerve to call scientific racism “unscientific.”

    Apparently, he never saw this:

    German Boy, Jewish Boy

    Though it is unclear which letter the publisher sent, the first draft was one ignoring request entirely, and the second was this:

    Dear Sirs,

    Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch . I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people. My great-great-grandfather came to England in the eighteenth century from Germany: the main part of my descent is therefore purely English, and I am an English subject – which should be sufficient. I have been accustomed, nonetheless, to regard my German name with pride, and continued to do so throughout the period of the late regrettable war, in which I served in the English army. I cannot, however, forbear to comment that if impertinent and irrelevant inquiries of this sort are to become the rule in matters of literature, then the time is not far distant when a German name will no longer be a source of pride.

    Your enquiry is doubtless made in order to comply with the laws of your own country, but that this should be held to apply to the subjects of another state would be improper, even if it had (as it has not) any bearing whatsoever on the merits of my work or its sustainability for publication, of which you appear to have satisfied yourselves without reference to my Abstammung .

    Here you can see that Tolkien was not merely a cheeky and pretentious Englishman, but also a lover of the Jews.

    He would later go on to refer to Adolf Hitler as a “ruddy little ignoramus,” and support the total destruction of the German nation by the sickening Jews.

    He is Magneto and Gandolf and also a homo.

    Ian McKellen, the homosexual actor who plays the wizard Gandolf in the films, has said that Sauron is really Hitler: “What is Sauron? I would think of Hitler. He’s the great evil force of our time, and certainly of Tolkien’s.”

    I would have expected that weird gay bastard to have a bit more depth to him. Referring to complex political situations as having resulted from “evil persons” is weak, even if you are against National Socialism because you are a weird old queer.

    Sauron: He represents Hitler.

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    Re: Dual Seedline CI in Lit - J.R.R. Tolkien

    Anglin is an idiot - his opinion piece above is pure fiction.

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    Re: Dual Seedline CI in Lit - J.R.R. Tolkien

    Quote Originally Posted by Solomon View Post
    Anglin is an idiot.
    “The righteous mother of the seven children spake also as follows to her offspring: I was a pure virgin, and went not beyond my father’s house; but I took care of the built-up rib. No destroyer of the desert, or ravisher of the plain, injured me; nor did the destructive, deceitful, snake, make spoil of my chaste virginity; and I remained with my husband during the period of my prime.” (4 Maccabees 18:7-8)

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