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    'Hitler's Pope saved 200,000 Jews' - Jerusalem Post

    'Hitler's Pope saved 200,000 Jews' - Jerusalem Post


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    Vatican goes after clerics who abused mentally impaired adults - Digital Journal

    Vatican goes after clerics who abused mentally impaired adults - Digital Journal


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    University of Illinois Instructor Fired Over Catholic Beliefs - AP

    University of Illinois Instructor Fired Over Catholic Beliefs - AP


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    Catholic priest says he'd marry gay couple

    Catholic priest says he'd marry gay couple

    High-profile Catholic priest Father Bob Maguire says he would marry a gay couple - but not in a church.

    The outspoken priest, who fought a public battle in 2010 to stop the church from retiring him, says he does not have a personal view of gay civil unions.

    The 75-year-old Father Maguire said he realised Catholic leaders would not want a gay marriage held inside a church but it was his duty to help people in need, including homosexual couples.

    "I'd probably consult the bosses and then I'd go back to the clients and tell them we can't do it here - it's not personal, it's institutional," he told the Herald Sun.

    He said that he felt it was "his duty" to help people in need.

    "Not only do I have an administrative responsibility but I have also pastoral responsibility and pastoral care would be taking care of the two people involved and their friends and their associates," he said.

    According to Australia Marriage Equality national secretary Peter Furness, he isn't the only Catholic priest who supports the issue but he's one of the few who is willing to speak publicly about it.

    "There are many priests who support and want the right to marry same sex couples," Mr Furness said.

    "(But) people are scared of their bosses to do it publicly."

    Yesterday the Catholic Church reiterated its belief that marriage is a union only between a man and a woman.
    According to Bishop Les Tomlinson, the Vicar General of the Archdiocese of Melbourne, "Priests are authorised to officiate at weddings according to the Catholic rite and therefore any marriage performed by a Catholic priest must be conducted in accordance with Catholic teaching."

    - AAP & Yahoo!7 February 15, 2011

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    Re: Catholic priest says he'd marry gay couple

    Coming from a catholic priest, why doesn't this surprise me?

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    Pope: Jews not guilty for Jesus death

    Pope Benedict has rejected the idea of collective Jewish guilt for Jesus Christ's death, in a new book to be published next week.

    Tackling an issue that has led to centuries of persecution, the Pope argues there is no basis in scripture for the Jewish people to be blamed.

    The Catholic Church officially repudiated the idea in 1965.

    But Jewish groups say the Pope's detailed analysis of the gospels is a major step forward.

    "This is a personal repudiation of the theological underpinning of centuries of anti-Semitism," said Elan Steinberg, vice-president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants.

    The Anti-Defamation League said it was an "important and historic moment".

    Fulls gut churning story:

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    Re: Pope: Jews not guilty for Jesus death

    In a sense, I agree with the Pope (if we take the term "Jew" to mean members of the tribe of Judah). However, if the Pope is trying to excuse those who currently "call" themselves "Jews" then he's way off base. Of course it's clear by looking at Pope Benedict that he, himself, is a Jew in the modern sense of the word. Those guilty of the crucifixion were "those who call themselves Jews but are not but are of the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 2:9 & 3:9). Today's Jews have no direct relationship to the tribe of Judah. They're related to Abraham through Esau and related to Cain (the first murderer) through Esau's Canaanite wives.

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    Re: Pope: Jews not guilty for Jesus death

    Pope Benedict says the Temple authorities were the real accusers, not the Jews - (This is from the article under the image of the Pope)

    Weren't The Chief Priests and Elders Jews???? as well as scribes and Pharisees????

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    Crypto-Judaism in the Catholic Church:

    An article in Haaretz (“Israeli Jew turned Catholic priest named head of papal court”) describes one David Maria Jaeger who “converted” from Judaism to Catholicism and will now become a member of the highest court in the Vatican. The word ‘converted’ is in quotes because it’s apparent that Jaeger has in no sense ceased being a Jew. Jaeger was born in Tel Aviv and had a Jewish religious education before assuming his high position in the Church.

    {[A prominent Israeli professor comments:] “He is a special man. … He’s told me about his deep ties to Israel. We didn’t delve deeply into the reasons for his Christianity. He only gave hints.”

    When Jaeger was asked yesterday whether he feels Israeli, he replied, “at least as much as you do,” adding, “I’m just like any Israeli citizen who works for an international organization situated outside the country – just like there are Israelis at the International Monetary Fund in Washington, the UN in New York or UNESCO in Paris. I am in a supra-national international body, that’s the only the difference.”

    “I’m a loyal and patriotic son of our people and our country,” he said. “After all, that was the whole point of the Jewish people’s emancipation in the 19th century, that we would become a nation, not a religious minority among gentiles. A person can live according to his conscience, he can not believe in any religious faith or believe in one rather than another, all according to his own intellectual conscience.”}

    It is stunning that a very prominent Catholic has a deep Jewish identity and thinks of the Church as just another non-governmental international organization. The ceremony for his ascendancy in Rome will be attended by his sister Leah, an Israeli citizen, bringing a sculpture by Menashe Kadishman, a famous Israeli sculptor. He served as legal adviser to the delegation that negotiated the Vatican’s Fundamental Agreement with Israel–sort of like having Dennis Ross negotiate with the Israelis on behalf of the U.S.

    Beginning in the 15th century in Spain, people like Jaeger were called Conversos or Marranos (pigs)—Jews who had the appearance but not the reality of having converted to Catholicism. The Inquisition was designed to ferret such people out and subject them to penalties.

    Indeed, a major problem in the eyes of the Inquisition was that the Church itself had been infiltrated by Jews pretending to be Catholics (see here, p. 118; I deal with Jewish apologia on the Inquisition, including denials that crypto-Jews had infiltrated the Catholic Church here, p227ff).

    During the centuries of the Inquisition, the Church acted as if it was much more than an international NGO. It was a community of faith where ethnic networking on behalf of non-believers was the ultimate betrayal. In the contemporary world, crypto-Judaism in the Church results in high office and, who knows, perhaps election as the next pope. (Jaeger is so upfront about identifying as a Jew that perhaps calling him a crypto-Jew is inaccurate.

    Making statements like Jaeger’s could only have been a death wish during the period of the Inquisition.) Whatever the past successes of the Church in defense of our people, the appointment of a strongly identified Jew to a position in the Church hierarchy is certainly a bad sign indeed of the state of Catholicism in the contemporary world.

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    Rome’s Pope accepts resignation of Philadelphia’s Roman Catholic Cardinal Rigali, amid long-running archdiocese scandal including three sodomite Roman Catholic priests charged criminally for raping either a 10-year-old boy or a 14-year-old boy

    Here is the full list of the priests placed on leave and where some of the priests were recently assigned, according to sources:

    . Philip Barr Pastor Emeritus, St. Edmond’s, Philadelphia

    . John Bowe Saint Joseph’s, Warrington, Pa.

    . George Cadwallader Saint Vincent De Paul, Richboro, Pa.

    . Paul Castellani Saint Philomena’s, Lansdowne, Pa.

    . Michael Chapman Ascension of Our Lord, Philadelphia

    . Msgr. John Close

    . Msgr. Francis Feret Saint Adalbert’s, Philadelphia

    . Mark Fernandes Saint Agnes, Sellersville, Pa.

    . Msgr. Michael Flood Saint Luke the Evangelist, Glenside, Pa.

    . Mark Gaspar Our Lady of Charity, Brookhaven, Pa.

    . Joseph Glatts

    . Steven Harris

    . Daniel Hoy Retired, Our Lady of the Assumption Rectory, Strafford, Pa.

    . Msgr. Joseph Logrip Saint Stanislaus, Lansdale, Pa.

    . Andrew McCormick Sacred Heart, Swedesburg, Pa.

    . Zachary Navit Our Lady of Guadalupe, Doylestown, Pa.

    . Leonard Peterson Saint Maria Goretti, Hatfield, Pa.

    . Robert Povish Chaplain, State Correctional Institute, Graterford
Saint Eleanor Rectory, Collegeville, Pa.

    . John Reardon Saint John Of The Cross Rectory, Roslyn, Pa.

    . Thomas Rooney

    . Peter Talocci

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