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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    George, you are agreeable that Christ wasthree days and three nights in the heart of the earth” and that He wouldafter three days rise again” (Matthew 12:40 and Mark 8: 31), then he could only have at the end of the third day “be raised the third day” (Luke 9:22) - at sunset ! ! !

    In other words Christ was a full 72 hours of three days and three nights in the tomb as He said He would be:

    "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly;
    so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." (Matthew 12: 40)

    There is no other explanation.

    The tomb was only opened about the next sunrise to reveal that Christ was already risen !

    I also dogive glory to “Lord Jesus Christ as God” as amply shown here “In the Beginning:

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/marr...z_linkpg90.doc

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    It is very important to note that John 20: 1–19 proves that there is no day change either at sunrise or at mid-day !

    According to the Dead Sea Scrolls solar calendar the 14th to 19th Abib includes two Sabbaths: the Passover High Day Sabbath and the next weekly Sabbath. This is confirmed by a careful scrutiny of the crucifixion/resurrection events:

    14th Abib. Christ’s “Last Supperwas a working day 14 Abib preparation-day evening meal.

    14th Abib. Judas Iscariot left the “Last Supper” meal early; the other apostles assumed he had left to purchase things required for the Passover (John 13: 29-30), proof that the 14th was not a Sabbath of any kind whatsoever, and therefore the “Last Supperwas not the Passover meal !

    14th Abib. He was tried and crucified later on that same 14 Abib afternoon – if it was a Sabbath of any kind they would have been resting, not working ! They also previously confirmed that it would not be done on the High Day Sabbath or possibly on any of the 7 days Feast of Unleavened Bread (Mark 14: 1-2).

    14th Abib. Joseph of Arimathaea also purchased fine linen that same afternoon (Mark 15: 46), proof again that the 14th was not a Sabbath of any kind whatsoever, and therefore the “Last Supperwas not the Passover meal !

    14th Abib. Christ’s body was wrapped and hurriedly laid in the tomb just before sunset as the High Day Sabbath approached (Luke 23: 53-54), proof that the day changes at sunset !


    15th Abib. The Sabbath High Day of the evening Passover Feast, and first day of the seven day Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    15th, 16th, 17th Abib. Christ spent three nights and three days in the tomb (Matthew 12:40 and Mark 8: 31), and rose at the sunset end of the third day (Luke 9:22) starting the next day 18th Abib weeklyfirst of the Sabbathsbetween Passover and Pentecost.

    18th Abib. About 12 hours later just before dawn on this same weeklyfirst of the Sabbaths” (Mark 16: 1–3 and Matthew 28: 1, 4), the tomb was opened to reveal that Christ had already risen ! ( See pages 9 and 10 of http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc )

    19th Abib. The first working day after the weekly Sabbath, when the Sadducees reaped and waved the Omer starting the 7 x 7 forty nine day count up to the “last of the Sabbaths” after Passover, which falls immediately before “Pentecost” !


    Understanding the whole Passover story and how it relates to Christ, the crucifixion, the Temple Calendar and its relevance today, is unfolded for easy reading here inThe Passover Lamb of God”:

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/marr...e_linkpg93.doc

    A must read !

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    George, for you to say of me that “And yet you refuse to give glory to Lord Jesus Christ as God” and “…Trinitarian God, to whom you still refuse to give glory” is proof that you ignored my testimony at the end of Post #59 on page six of this thread !

    If you click on the link you will never say this of me !

    ( IN FACT I THINK YOU FAILED TO READ ANY OF POST #59 AT ALL ! )

    He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.” (Proverbs 18:13)

    I said that I dogive glory to “Lord Jesus Christ as God” as amply shown here “In the Beginning:

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/marr...z_linkpg90.doc

    There are some amazing statements by Christ in the Old Testament quoted in this document ! ! ! Many of the statements also show three separate personalities speaking as one ! ! !

    Will you read it this time ?

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    Remember that the tomb was sealed and a guard set from the 15th Abib morning after the crucifixion: until the third day from then. (Matthew 27: 62–66)

    Christ was therefore already in the tomb for about 12 hours before it was sealed, and furthermore this guard was set “until the third dayfrom the morning of the 15th when it was set.

    This means that the guard would span from the first morning of the 15th through to the beginning of the third morning of the 18th:

    15th – 16th = 1 day
    16th – 17th = 2 days
    17th – 18th = 3 days

    Because Christ was already in the tomb for about 12 hours, this watch would overreach Christ's “three days and three nights” by about 12 hours, thus ensuring that nobody could steal the body until “three days and three nights” had well and truly expired !

    Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome were not happy with the hurried preparation of Christ's body before it was put in the tomb at sunset, just before the start of the 15th High Day Passover Sabbath.

    They had determined to redo the anointing of the body, but it was already the 15th High Day Sabbath Passover evening meal in which they have to remain indoors until midnight, and the guard was set soon the next morning. (Matthew 27: 62–66)

    On the 16th Abib they knew that they couldn’t enter the sealed, guarded tomb.

    On the 17th Abib they still couldn’t break the seal and enter the guarded tomb. They knew that they needn’t bother to go to the tomb just yet.

    Before dawn on the 18th they finally approached the tomb knowing that they would very soon be able to legally break the seal and enter ! The guard was actually still present pending the imminent sunrise !

    After this two day interval following the 15th High Day Passover Sabbath, the 18th is also a normal seventh day weekly Sabbath ! This is the first of the Sabbaths after Passover, followed by another seven weekly Sabbaths:

    before Pentecost immediately after the last of the Sabbaths ! (Eight weekly Sabbaths in total.)

    This two day interval between the 15th Abib Passover High Day Sabbath, and the 18th Abib weekly Sabbath shown in the 2000 year old Dead Sea Scrolls solar calendar, is easily confirmed by correctly understanding Mark 16: 1–3 and Matthew 28: 1, 4.

    In these verses is it:

    the Sabbathorinterval between two Sabbaths? ? ?

    Is it:

    first day of the weekorfirst of the Sabbaths? ? ?

    This is how it reads:

    Mark 16: 1–3 “And when the sabbath was past,

    (se’nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths” see Strong’s #4521-
    i.e. After this interval between the Passover High Day Sabbath and the regular weekly Sabbath
    )

    Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome,
    had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

    And very early in the morning

    the first day of the week,

    ( “[COLOR="day” is in italics, indicating that it is an insertion !
    see Strong’s #4521: “first of the Sabbaths” singular or plural !
    I.e. the 1st Sabbath after which the 7 ×7 day weekly Sabbath count started for
    the 49 days to the last of the Sabbaths, before the next
    50th day of Pentecost.
    )

    they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.
    And they said among themselves,
    Who shall roll us away the stone
    from the door of the sepulchre ?”


    Matthew 28: 1, 4In the end of the sabbath,

    ( se’nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths” see Strong’s #4521-
    i.e. After this interval between the
    Passover High Day Sabbath and the regular weekly Sabbath
    )

    as it began to dawn toward the

    first day of the week,

    ( see Strong’s #4521 “first of the Sabbaths” singular or plural !
    I.e. the 1st Sabbath after which the 7 ×7 day weekly Sabbath count started for
    the 49 days to the last of the Sabbaths, before the next 50th day of Pentecost.
    )

    came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre . . .

    And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.”

    After the third day, the 18th is the resurrection Sabbath centre of the Feast of Unleavened Bread !
    ( i.e. the first of His resurrected days ! )



    The way “week” and “Sabbath” are translated,

    and the insertion of the word “day” in these verses,

    displays a deliberate attempt to permanently change the

    Sabbath Lords Day

    of Christ's resurrection as

    Lord of the Sabbath,

    to

    Rome’s Pagan Sunday !


    Lets not do as the Romans do !


    See pages 9 and10 of

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    George, having read “In the Beginning”:

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/marr...z_linkpg90.doc

    you should clearly see that I promote plenty Biblical proof of the Trinity and of Christ as the Son of Yahweh.

    The main issue between us so far in this thread, is the number of days Christ spent in the tomb before His resurrection.

    To repeat, you are agreeable that Christ wasthree days and three nights in the heart of the earth” and that He wouldafter three days rise again” (Matthew 27: 63 and Mark 8: 31), then he could only have at the end of the third day “be raised the third day” (Luke 9:22) - at sunset ! ! !

    In other words Christ was a full 72 hours of three days and three nights in the tomb as He said He would be:

    “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly;
    so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” (Matthew 12: 40)

    There is no other explanation ! ! !

    The tomb was only opened about the next sunrise to reveal that Christ was already risen !

    I do affirm the resurrection in the third day, at the end of the third day and therefore also “after” the full third day of three full days and three full nights in the tomb ! ! !

    George, after only yourtwo days and nights” in the tomb, how do you get “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” (Matthew 12: 40), “be raised the third day” (Luke 9:22) and “after three days rise again” (Matthew 27: 63 and Mark 8: 31) ? ? ?

    George, you are going along with the mainline Babylonian judeo-ChristianGood Friday” and “Easter Sundaydenial of Matthew 12: 40 and Mark 8: 31, and thus supporting the Edomite Pharisee accusation in Matthew 27: 63 that Christ was a “deceiver” ! ! !

    Judeo-Christians and Messianic Edomites use logic gymnastics and “inclusive counting” to essentially continue making Christ out a liar as claimed in Matthew 27: 63.

    You are also denying Mark 8: 31 and Matthew 12: 40, and thus also making Christ out a liar as the Pharisees claimed in Matthew 27: 63 !

    I suggest that we use the same calendar that Christ used and we will all get it right in the end !

    Study http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Every “Easter” doesn’t the whole of Judeo-Christianity still make round solar hot-cross love cakes of raisins to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN ? !

    At this time very year doesn’t the Pope still decide for all Judeo-Christianity which “venerable” SUN-DAY closest to which FULL-MOON is EASTER-SUNDAY ? !

    By accepting this they are all also denying Mark 8: 31 and Matthew 12: 40, and thus also making Christ out a liar, as the Pharisees claimed in Matthew 27: 63 !

    According to this Pagan calendar they will always miss Yahweh’s appointments !

    We need to stop sipping from this Babylonian lunar-solar cup and return to Yahweh’s true Sabbaths and High Days !

    Study http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

    Experience the Passion of Christ story here: http://www.declarethedecree.com/marr...e_linkpg93.doc

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    The fallacy of the two day in the tomb “Good Friday” to “Easter SundayPagan heresy, maintains the PapalvenerableSUN-day” of the Roman SUN-day first day of the week, with the insertion of the word “dayin Mark 16: 1–3 and Matthew 28: 1, 4 !

    Readers must study these posts very carefully !

    Study http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    One swallow does not make a summer; neither do one or two selective Biblical quotes, while ignoring or marginalising others, make the full truth !

    Only an explanation which takes into consideration all the relevant quotes into one compatible rationalization, get close to the full truth !

    Readers must study these posts very carefully !

    Study http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    “And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians.” (Numbers 33:3)

    I.e. After the Passover was killed on the afternoon of the 14th, and after it was eaten as the first Passover Feast after sunset on the 15th; on that same 15th day morning after eating the Passover, the Israelites started marching out of Egypt.

    This was the first Passover in Egypt, and as already pointed out previously, this very first Passover in Egypt was not yet instituted as a High Day Sabbath, which is why they could escape out of Egypt on that day. However if it was also already a normal Genesis seventh day weekly Sabbath, Yahweh would not have required them to break it for Him before He later again revealed it to them. “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day” (Matthew 24: 20). This confirms that the 15th Abib could never have been a weekly Sabbath Day !

    Yet in Deuteronomy 5:14-15, because the weekly Sabbath is referred to in the ten commandments in association with the Exodus out of Egypt, lunar calendar advocates claim the 15th Abib and all 15th days of every month as weekly Sabbaths:

    “But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.
    And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.” (Deuteronomy 5:14-15)

    The weekly Sabbath is referred to here not because that first Passover Exodus out of Egypt was on a weekly Sabbath, but because Yahweh wants them to always remember that He freed them from Egyptian bondage/oppression/slavery/forced work. He expects them therefore to keep the weekly Sabbath for themselves, their households, guests, servants etc, and even for their domesticated animals !

    Don't be mislead by this slight of hand, it is just more Edomite lunar smoke and mirrors !

    As shown, the 15th day itself was not a weekly Sabbath and never has been for any month, although the 15th Abib was later instituted as a High Day Sabbath with its slightly different rules to a weekly Sabbath !

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    Looking at all the holy days for the forthcoming new year, starting at sunset on the March 20th equinox, I have this evening discovered an interesting fact:

    The first day of every one of the 12 Biblical months,
    Plus the First Day of Unleavened Bread,
    Plus the Last Day of Unleavened Bread,
    Plus Pentecost/Feast of First Fruits,
    Plus the Day of Atonement,
    Plus the First Day of the Feast of Tabernacles,
    Plus the Last Great Day of the Feast of Tabernacles,
    Plus the weekly Sabbaths for 52 weeks of the year -

    EQUALS 70 !

    Halleluyah !

    Besides the weekly Sabbaths, this gives a generous 18 days a year.

    With the weekly Sabbaths, it gives a total of 70 days a year - every single year of every solar year: ad infinitum !

    Besides falling on different days, the lunar calendar doesn’t do this “70 total” every single year !

    Pages 13, 15, 23 and 24 of

    http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

    shows two Dead Sea Scrolls solar calendars corrected to the Sadducee Omer one week earlier. The second DSS’s calendar has our Roman calendar dates superimposed, enabling us to continually see where we are in comparison when the March equinox falls on the 20th of March, as it does to at least 2020.

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