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    Proving The Sabbaths - A Study Into Yahweh's Calendar

    Debunking All False Calendars by Proving the Sabbaths and the Omer date:Please take pen to paper and prove the logic for yourself:

    Write 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 . . . to 30 across the top of the page.

    Remember, the Feast of Unleavened Bread is from day 15 to day 21.

    Read the following, and when indicated mark off the established days from the top of your page!

    Proving the Sabbaths and the Omer date:

    When Yahweh gave instructions concerning His feasts, He started with the weekly Sabbath:

    “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of Yahweh in all your dwellings.”
    ( Leviticus 23: 3 )

    In other words no work may be done on the weekly Sabbath, servile or otherwiseno kindling a fire (cooking) for employers or ourselves – no working for ourselves or anyone else: in all our dwellings!

    Many daily functions in the Temple required work and the kindling of fire. Only in the Temple of the “Lord of the Sabbath” was this rule in the Law of Moses not applicable, as it was not our dwelling!

    Most “High Day” Sabbath festivals also required work and/or the kindling of fire in our dwellings – only servile work was prohibited on these days, thus allowing other work, and therefore they could not fall on the calendars weekly Sabbaths! More specifically, except for the Day of Atonement when no work at all was allowed, on all the Feast days only servile work was forbidden, thus allowing other work and therefore, to repeat, they could not fall on the calendars weekly Sabbaths! This includes the first and seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Pentecost or the Feast of First Fruits, the Day of Trumpets, the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles, and the Last Great Day ( the “eighth day” – the day after the seventh day of the Feast of Tabernacles ).

    Only on the Day of Atonement was no work allowed at all, but Yahweh also says that all these feasts and holy convocations, including the Day of Atonement, are apart from the normal weekly Sabbaths, they are: “ . . . Beside the sabbaths of Yahweh, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto Yahweh . . .” ( Leviticus 23: 38 ).
    I.e. a “High Day” cannot fall on a normal weekly Sabbath!High Daysare normal work days that have been made a Sabbath! If these feasts and holy convocations could ever be on any weekly Sabbath in which no work may be done at all, Yahweh need not have said “no work” or, “no servile work” may be done on these days, neither would He have said that they were all always: “Beside(s) the (weekly) sabbaths of Yahweh”.

    So, except for the fire and offerings prepared and made in the Temple, if any of the following things fell on the calendars weekly Sabbaths, then that calendar was incorrect and therefore is still incorrect:

    • Separating the Passover lamb from the flock.
    • Preparing the home, Passover lamb and venue in both the first and second month Passover.
    • Roasting the Passover lamb. 1st & 7th day of Feast of Unleavened Bread – “no servile work”.
    • Cutting/reaping the Omer/Wave Sheaf.
    • Festival of First Fruits and therefore also Pentecost – “. . . unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days . . .” – there are only the weekly Sabbaths in the third month for Pentecost to follow after, so the Pentecost count and reaping of the Omer has to start after a weekly Sabbath in Abib: not after a Festival Sabbath/High Day!
    • Day of Trumpets “no servile work”. Day of Atonement: “Beside(s) the (weekly) sabbaths”.
    • First day of the Feast of Tabernacles – “no servile work” ( but allows cutting down branches etc. to make booths ), and the following “eighth day” – “Last Great Day” “no servile work”.

    Therefore if any of these things do fall on the weekly Sabbaths, then that calendar is incorrect!


    Determining Wave Sheaf Day and Weekly Sabbaths in Abib by the Process of Elimination:

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    If separating the Passover lamb on the 10th Abib cannot be done on the weekly Sabbath, then the 3rd, 10th, 17th, and 24th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath.

    If the Passover preparation day on the 14th Abib cannot be on a weekly Sabbath, then the 7th, 14th, 21st and 28th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath.

    If roasting a lamb into the evening of the Passover feast on the 15th Abib cannot be a weekly Sabbath, then the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath. ( This rules out the lunar based calendar! ) On the first and also seventh day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread “ . . . no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you . . . ” ( Exodus 12:16 ), thus allowing the continued roasting of the Passover lamb after sunset.

    If reaping the Omer ( Wave Sheaf Day ) has to occur after the weekly Sabbath within the seven day Feast of Unleavened Bread, this leaves only four days in the Feast to place it, and one is its Sabbath:

    There are only the weekly Sabbaths in the third month for Pentecost to follow after, so the Pentecost count and reaping of the Omer has to start after a weekly Sabbath as well!

    The 15th, 17th and 21st Abib within the Feast of Unleavened Bread are already eliminated as weekly Sabbaths. Therefore the 16th and 18th within the Feast of Unleavened Bread cannot be “the day after the Sabbath” to reap the Omer.

    That only leaves the 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    The 21st Abib is also the last and seventh day of unleavened bread when only “no servile work” may be done. This applies to the Omer start of the grain harvest. This means that the 20th cannot be the weekly Sabbath and therefore the 6th, 13th, 20th and 27th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath.

    The 19th is the only day left over within the Feast of Unleavened Bread to reap the Omer. This means that the 18th Abib is the weekly Sabbath following which the Omer is reaped.

    After the third day, the 18th is the resurrection centre of the Feast of Unleavened Bread: For the whole year every 7th day before and after is a Sabbath!

    If the 18th is a weekly Sabbath, then the 4th, 11th, 18th and 25th are the weekly Sabbaths in Abib and agrees with the DSS’s starting the first day of the year, on the fourth day of the week!

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    Cutting the Omer is the first reaping beginning the grain harvest and its grain is waved in the Temple. The harvesters prepared it in the field before the weekly Sabbath by tying the grain into bundles ready to cut. After the weekly Sabbath, straight after sunset, they cut and reaped the Omer and the grain was given to the priest: “ on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.” ( Leviticus 23: 11 ).

    If however, reaping the Omer falls after the weekly Sabbath following the Feast of Unleavened Bread, then applying the same logic again leaves four days in this week unaccounted for:

    They are the 23rd, 25th, 26th, and 27th. One of these days has to be a Sabbath, and the Omer has to be waved the following day. The Omer also can only be waved on the 24th, 26th, or 27th, because the 24th is a non-Sabbath work day and the 25th therefore cannot be the wave sheaf day. There is no way of pinpointing whether it is waved on the 24th, 26th, or 27th, unless we agree with the Dead Sea Scroll’s calendar starting the year on the fourth day of the week, as indicated by Genesis 1:14–19. In this case the weekly Sabbaths of Abib are still the 4th, 11th, 18th and 25th, and therefore the Omer is waved on the 26th, the day after the last Sabbath. The uncorrected solar calendar of the Dead Sea Scroll’s shows it this way, but it is not the way the Temple Sadducees practiced it – as shown above the Temple Sadducees started the Pentecost count one week earlier, with the Omer/Wave Sheaf on the 19th Abib after the weekly Sabbath within the Feast of Unleavened Bread:


    Christ Himself did not contest the Sadducee calendar practices for all of the weekly Sabbaths, Omer wave sheaf, and Festivals – and He attended them according to the Temple calendar of the Sadducees themselves!

    As shown the 19th was the only day left over within the Feast of Unleavened Bread to reap the Omer. This means that the 18th Abib is the weekly Sabbath following which the Omer is reaped.

    After the third day, the 18th is the resurrection centre of the Feast of Unleavened Bread:

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    For the whole year every 7th day before and after the resurrection 18th Abib, is a Sabbath!

    ( Click here to see all of The Temple Calendar : http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc )

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    Re: THE TEMPLE CALENDAR

    Food for thought.

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    Re: THE TEMPLE CALENDAR

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    Someone took the trouble to check “The Temple Calendar” logic and see that it was actually flawed. I incorrectly concluded:

    “That only leaves the 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread”.

    In fact that leaves three days: the 17th, 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread, not two days, making it impossible to pinpoint the weekly Sabbath down to one day.

    This means that from this point on I had to follow a different route in logic to determine what the true Biblical weekly Sabbath was, which actually came to the same result and still agrees with the Dead Sea Scrolls calendar:

    That only leaves the 17th, 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    The 21st Abib is also the last and seventh day of unleavened bread when only “no servile work” may be done. This applies to the Omer start of the grain harvest. This means that the 20th cannot be the weekly Sabbath and therefore the 6th, 13th, 20th and 27th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath.

    This means that either the 16th, 18th or 19th is the weekly Sabbath.

    If the 16th is the weekly Sabbath immediately after the High Day Sabbath of the Passover, then the “se’nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths” (see Strong’s #4521), is zero. Therefore the 16th cannot be a weekly Sabbath and is actually a part of this “sabbath”/“se’nnight”/ interval referred to in Mark 16:1 and Matthew 28:1 (see page 10 of http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc ).

    If the 19th is the weekly Sabbath, then the “se’nnight”/interval between the 15th and 19th is three full days. With the 15th High Day this equals four full days and therefore exceeds the “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”/“sign of Jonah” by a full 24 hours. Therefore the 19th is not the weekly Sabbath.

    If the 18th is the weekly Sabbath, then the “se’nnight”/interval between the 15th and 18th is two full days. With the 15th Passover High Day this equals the “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”/“sign of Jonah” exactly. Therefore the 18th Abib is the weekly Sabbath following which the Omer is reaped on the 19th !

    “After” the third day, the 18th is also the resurrection centre of the Feast of Unleavened Bread:

    For the whole year every 7th day before and after is a Sabbath !

    Logically, if the 14th Abib is a working “preparation day” throughout which the Passover lamb is killed and prepared with everything else required, then the 1st of Abib can never ever be the first day of the Biblical week: because the 14th Abib would then be a resting weekly Sabbath in which one couldn’t prepare for the Passover !

    So if the 18th is a weekly Sabbath, then the 4th, 11th, 18th and 25th are the weekly Sabbaths in Abib and agrees with the DSS’s starting the first day of the year, on the fourth day of the week !

    With the first building of the Tabernacle and also the building of the Temple both commencing on the first day of the year, the 1st of Abib became a High Day Sabbath.

    The 1st of Abib was never and is not now a weekly Sabbath: . . .

    See http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: THE TEMPLE CALENDAR

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    Although not perfect in its timekeeping, the Julian Calendar introduced by Julius Caesar was an improvement on earlier Roman calendars. Aside from that it is a thoroughly Pagan calendar. Julius Caesar tried to deify himself in his own lifetime. His adopted successor succeeded in that, and all subsequent Caesars and Roman popes have continued that blasphemy up to this day.

    If the Julian Calendar is Biblical, you should be able to prove it from the Bible.

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:

    "This article is about a calendar used for civil and liturgical purposes. For the day-number calendar used for astronomical and historical calculations, see Julian day.
    The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC). It was the predominant calendar in most of Europe, and in European settlements in the Americas and elsewhere, until it was refined and superseded by the Gregorian calendar. The difference in the length of the year between Julian (365.25 days) and Gregorian (365.2425 days) is 0.002%.
    The Julian calendar has a regular year of 365 days divided into 12 months, as listed in Table of months. A leap day is added to February every four years. The Julian year is, therefore, on average 365.25 days long. It was intended to approximate the tropical (solar) year. Although Greek astronomers had known, at least since Hipparchus, a century before the Julian reform, that the tropical year was a few minutes shorter than 365.25 days, the calendar did not compensate for this difference. As a result, the calendar year gained about three days every four centuries compared to observed equinox times and the seasons. This discrepancy was corrected by the Gregorian reform of 1582. The Gregorian calendar has the same months and month lengths as the Julian calendar, but inserts leap days according to a different rule. Consequently, the Julian calendar is currently 13 days behind the Gregorian calendar; for instance, 1 January in the Julian calendar is 14 January in the Gregorian.
    The Julian calendar has been replaced as the civil calendar by the Gregorian calendar in almost all countries which formerly used it, although it continued to be the civil calendar of some countries into the 20th century. Most Christian denominations in the West and areas evangelized by Western churches have also replaced the Julian calendar with the Gregorian as the basis for their liturgical calendars. However, most branches of the Eastern Orthodox Church still use the Julian calendar for calculating the dates of moveable feasts, including Easter (Pascha). Some Orthodox churches have adopted the Revised Julian calendar for the observance of fixed feasts, while other Orthodox churches retain the Julian calendar for all purposes.[1] The Julian calendar is still used by the Berber people of North Africa and on Mount Athos. In the form of the Alexandrian calendar, it is the basis for the Ethiopian calendar, which is the civil calendar of Ethiopia."

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    Someone took the trouble to check “The Temple Calendar” logic and see that it was actually flawed. I incorrectly concluded:

    “That only leaves the 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread”.

    In fact that leaves three days: the 17th, 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread, not two days, making it impossible to pinpoint the weekly Sabbath down to one day.

    This means that from this point on I had to follow a different route in logic to determine what the true Biblical weekly Sabbath was, which actually came to the same result and still agrees with the Dead Sea Scrolls calendar:

    That only leaves the 17th, 19th or 20th to reap the Omer within the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

    The 21st Abib is also the last and seventh day of unleavened bread when only “no servile work” may be done. This applies to the Omer start of the grain harvest. This means that the 20th cannot be the weekly Sabbath and therefore the 6th, 13th, 20th and 27th Abib on any calendar also cannot be a weekly Sabbath.

    This means that either the 16th, 18th or 19th is the weekly Sabbath.

    If the 16th is the weekly Sabbath immediately after the High Day Sabbath of the Passover, then the “se’nnight, i.e. the interval between two Sabbaths” (see Strong’s #4521), is zero. Therefore the 16th cannot be a weekly Sabbath and is actually a part of this “sabbath”/“se’nnight”/ interval referred to in Mark 16:1 and Matthew 28:1 (see page 10 of http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc ).

    If the 19th is the weekly Sabbath, then the “se’nnight”/interval between the 15th and 19th is three full days. With the 15th High Day this equals four full days and therefore exceeds the “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”/“sign of Jonah” by a full 24 hours. Therefore the 19th is not the weekly Sabbath.

    If the 18th is the weekly Sabbath, then the “se’nnight”/interval between the 15th and 18th is two full days. With the 15th Passover High Day this equals the “three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”/“sign of Jonah” exactly. Therefore the 18th Abib is the weekly Sabbath following which the Omer is reaped on the 19th !

    “After” the third day, the 18th is also the resurrection centre of the Feast of Unleavened Bread:

    For the whole year every 7th day before and after is a Sabbath !


    Logically, if the 14th Abib is a working “preparation day” throughout which the Passover lamb is killed and prepared with everything else required, then the 1st of Abib can never ever be the first day of the Biblical week: because the 14th Abib would then be a resting weekly Sabbath in which one couldn’t prepare for the Passover !

    So if the 18th is a weekly Sabbath, then the 4th, 11th, 18th and 25th are the weekly Sabbaths in Abib and agrees with the DSS’s starting the first day of the year, on the fourth day of the week !

    With the first building of the Tabernacle and also the building of the Temple both commencing on the first day of the year, the 1st of Abib became a High Day Sabbath.

    The 1st of Abib was never and is not now a weekly Sabbath: . . .

    See http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    The weekly Sabbath day is part of the Biblical calendar made up of days, weeks and months.

    There are three or more Biblical references, for each and every one of the “first” to “twelfth” months of the Biblical year, but there is not one reference anywhere in the entire Bible, to any so called lunar-solar “thirteenth month!

    Why ?

    When convincingly faced with this fact, alarm bells should also ring for other people like me, who have been falsely converted to a Biblical lunar-solar calendar. With all the other ‘convincing’ proof, this “thirteenth month” is somehow so readily accepted as right. Fortunately people on the internet have opened my eyes. This intermittent “thirteenth month” is part of much new “oral law” that is needed to force the Babylonian “lunar solar” calendar into a resemblance of Biblical authenticity. To the Enemy it does not matter which false calendar we follow, so long as it does not perfectly synchronise with the true Biblical calendar. That way you will rarely even keep the Sabbath !

    So when we turn back to the Bible the Enemy already has a game plan set in place long ago. The Enemy never tells us that there is no Biblical reference to this “thirteenth month”. He also ignores the Dead Sea Scrolls/Maccabean/Enoch solar calendars. Why ?

    It is because he will be divided against himself. He is far brighter than that !

    Wouldn’t you prefer to make a totally informed decision, based also on information being withheld from you ?

    What are all the facts ?


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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    Of the six “days” (days/epochs/eras/periods/ages/times or eons) of creation in Genesis 1:1–31, we know that in one of them about 400 million years ago, the earth’s year was 410 days long. This is borne out by the minute daily growth deposits exhibited in certain fossilized corals. The number of days in the year may have changed many times. Also the gene SLC24A5 apparently causes pale skin in many Europeans. The data suggests this first occurred only 5300 to 6000 years ago, and is confirmed by the spread of farming 6000 years ago. Since the Biblical Genesis sixth “dayof rosy Adamic mans creation six thousand years ago, the number of days in the year have again changed:

    In Joshua 10:13 the sun and moon stood still forabouta day. Presumably if the earth suddenly stopped its 24 hour daily rotation, life on earth would probably be wiped out by mountainous tidal waves and volcanic eruptions. However, if the earth’s orbit in the vacuum of space rather stretched out from a circular to an elliptical orbit at just the right angle, it could still have maintained its 24 hour daily rotation, while the sun and moon appeared to stand still in the sky during the change. Another shorter orbital change in 2 Kings 20: 9–11 at a different angle, extended the day by making the sun appear to go backwards for “10 degree” on the sundial, or for forty minutes. Both these incidents have changed the earth’s orbit from a perfectly circular to a slightly longer elliptical orbit.

    The perfect 364 day circular orbit of the sun in Enoch’s calendar is divisible by seven. This gives exactly fifty two weeks in the year. Its weekly Sabbath cycle would follow on undisturbed from one
    year to the next
    , automatically resetting to whenever it started at the beginning of the year without falling on a High Day, the lamb separation day or the preparation day for the Passover ! Until Joshua 10:13 the Israelites obviously kept Enoch’s calendar, but started the year in the spring of Abib as previously instructed by Yahweh: “This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.” (Exodus 12:2). This also implies that the duration of the months were known and fixed according to a recognized calendarEnoch’s calendar.

    Our longer 365¼ day elliptical year is not divisible by seven. As shown on page 16 above all the High Days and some other days cannot fall on the weekly Sabbath. Logically therefore the Sabbath cycle is still reset annually with the start of the year, the same as with the DSS’s calendar: If the year starts at sunset after the northern spring equinox is visually confirmed, and this first day is reset to the fourth day of the week, then all the weekly Sabbaths follow on unchanged to the year’s end – without falling on a High Day, the lamb separation day or the preparation day for the Passover. No floating weekly Sabbath can continue to do this on a 365¼ day calendar after the first year ! The calendar has to be reset again at the end of every year to achieve this, as the Dead Sea Scrolls calendar does !

    The DSS’s community established our elliptical orbits springtekufahafter which they correctly started the month of Abib: “This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.” (Exodus 12:2). The spring feasts fall after the March equinox and even with our longer elliptical orbit, the autumn feasts still fall after our September equinox as required by Exodus 34: 22 .

    The DSS’s community therefore saw no need to alter the number of days in the twelve Enoch months, which await the restoration of all things. The extra 365th day and 366th leap year day were added in as inter calendar days, leaving the rest of Enoch’s months unchanged.


    Extracted from page 25 of http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    What Sabbaths did Christ keep ?

    At the time of Christ many of the “Jews” were still pure Israelites of Judah descent, and were not of mixed Edomite ancestry from John Hyrcanus’ recent forced conversions in 125 BC. Many of the Sadducees and Pharisees were still of Israelite stock. This is why the Gospels say that many of His Jewish sheep heard His voice and followed Him, whilst many other proselyte Edomite ‘Jewish’ “wolves”/“tares”, like Herod, continually conspired to arrest and kill Him.

    Christ endorsed the Sadducee Temple calendar as practiced at that time. Yahshua as well as both Joseph of Arimathaea, an official councillor, and Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews, all three worked in accordance with the Temple Calendar of the time.


    For two consecutive years Christ kept the Passover in Jerusalem according to the Temple calendar. He is also recorded to have kept its Feast of Tabernacles, making a declaration in the Temple on its “Last Great Day”.

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

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    Justification for how the Feast of Unleavened Bread in Exodus 12:18 is interpreted is probably decisive in determining whether the “Last Supper” was a Passover or not ! The Feast of Unleavened Bread is for seven days. So if the “Last Supper” was a Passover according to Exodus 12:18, then they would have eaten unleavened bread that day, and up until the twenty first Abib, making it an actual Feast of eight days Unleavened Bread, and not seven days Unleavened Bread !

    Clearly Exodus 12:18 is correctly interpreted in the same way as explained in the Biblical interpretation of the Day of Atonement in Leviticus 23: 27–32. Here verse 32 ensures that the 10th referred to in verse 27 starts at the sunset end of the 9th, so that there is no mistake ! If it started at the beginning of the 9th then obviously it wouldn’t be “the 10th day” :

    “Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto Yahweh.
    And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before Yahweh your God.
    For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
    And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
    Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
    It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.” (Leviticus 23: 27–32)

    This “evenis sunset at the end of the 9th, [U]because if it started at the beginning of the 9th[/U]: then it wouldn’t be the 10th ! ! ! ( See Strong's # 6153 and #6150 )

    It appears therefore that the “Last Supper” was not the Passover meal, and that Christ kept the Feasts and Sabbaths in full accordance with the Sadducees and the Temple Calendar which they controlled. Only much later when the Sadducees were disempowered by the Pharasees seizing control of the Temple in 68AD just before the Temple was destroyed in 70AD, did the Pharisees opportunistically change the Omer date from the Sadducee’s date, to their ‘Omer’ on the 16th Abib, indicating that this was the first crucial step to re-introducing the false Babylonian lunar ‘Biblical’ calendar, well after the crucifixion: The false lunar calendar has to have the Omer on the 16th Abib !

    To repeat, the “seasons” of Genesis 1: 14 are the “appointments / meetings” of the Sabbaths, new- months and solemn feasts. Even in the perfectly circular orbit of Enoch’s 364 day year, the Passover and Feast of Unleavened Bread, as well as the Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles, always correctly fall well after the equinoxes. Even Enoch’s first day of the year and Day of Trumpets fall the day after his calendars spring and autumn equinoxes. The focus is on meeting with Yahweh, not with the sun or with spring, summer, winter and autumn !

    The Passover is also always killed on the fourteenth and eaten on the fifteenth. If it is killed and also eaten on the fourteenth with unleavened bread, then the Feast of Unleavened Bread will consist of eight days unleavened bread, instead of seven days unleavened bread from the 15th to the 21st Abib. The day is separate from the night, and the light is separate from the dark. Day-light and dark-night make up one day. The first going down of the sun at mid-day and the second going down of the sun at sunset is part of the “evening”, and “between the evenings” is at 3pm. The full evening is from mid-day to mid-night and conversely the full morning is from mid-night to mid-day. John 20: 1–19 proves that there is no day change either at sunrise or at mid-day ! The day changes after the “second going down of the sun” at sunset. Only this way can you correctly kill the Passover on the afternoon of the fourteenth and still eat it with unleavened bread on the fifteenth, correctly giving seven days unleavened bread up to and including the twenty first of Abib !

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    http://www.declarethedecree.com/the_temple_calendar.doc

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    Re: What does everyone consider the Sabbath day to fall on?

    Quote Originally Posted by TNchristian View Post
    I have heard many different views on this particular question and I just wanted to see what everyone has to say about this? I have read/heard that the traditional day of Sunday is proper, but other information advises that Saturday or Friday would be the correct days. I am personally confused on what day to celebrate the Sabbath on and would like to know if anyone could recommend any scriptures that would point to the proper day?

    On a side note with this subject, what about the holidays and Feasts that we are supposed to celebrate according to scripture? Forgive me for what is probably very basic questions but I have been confused about this for awhile. I would appreciate any help ya'll could give me on these questions!

    The Sabbath is the "SEVENTH DAY" of the WEEK.

    But did you know over 100 passages, or sections of scripture tell you what day of the MONTH that SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK falls on??

    It is ALWAYS ... yes EVERY INSTANCE ... the 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th day of the month. YES, the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK is ALWAYS either the 8th, 15th, 22nd, or 29th day of the month. WHY? Because the Seventh Day Sabbath is a "MOED" and all MOEDIM are set by the MOON.

    Lev 23:2 SpeakH1696 untoH413 the childrenH1121 of Israel,H3478 and sayH559 untoH413 them, Concerning the feastsH4150 of the LORD,H3068 whichH834 (H853) ye shall proclaimH7121 to be holyH6944 convocations,H4744 even theseH428 are my feasts.H4150 [<<<<<<<<<<<< MOEDIM]
    Lev 23:3 SixH8337 daysH3117 shall workH4399 be done:H6213 but the seventhH7637 dayH3117 is the sabbathH7676 of rest,H7677 an holyH6944 convocation;H4744 ye shall doH6213 noH3808 H3605 workH4399 therein: itH1931 is the sabbathH7676 of the LORDH3068 in allH3605 your dwellings.H4186


    Psa 104:19 He appointedH6213 the moonH3394 for seasons:H4150 [<<<<<<<MOEDIM] the sunH8121 knowethH3045 his going down.H3996

    All Moedim are set by the MOON.

    Here is more on the subject if interested - I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERY DETAIL ON THIS SITE:

    http://www.lunarsabbath.info/

    and a free book - though I do not agree with every detail this book provides either:
    http://www.ministersnewcovenant.org/...date-2013.html

    and some interesting videos on the subject on Youtube - though I do not agree with everything these people say either - there are three parts:



    IF you are still in East Tennessee there was a group keeping such a Sabbath and feasts but I am not sure if they are still functioning as the main overseer had a stroke and has been trying to get back to full health again. They are at:

    http://www.oneyahweh.com/w/

    That is "Buddy" Johnson's site. His contact number was on there. He has a lot of sermons on there too, some dealing with the subject.

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