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    What's at stake in the immigration battle is that of legal principle - American jurisprudence 101. The federal government telling a state who they can or cannot invite into their state is unconstitutional. And, if you don't use your critical thinking skills, you are only aiding the Jews you indict with words.
    Theres no such thing as states rights there haven't been any since the civil war when the South committed treason and Lincoln invaded as a result.

    Without YOUR ability to exercise Freedom of Association, you nad I cannot build Christian congregations and organize to resist the advances of Satan.
    We don't have freedom of association. We haven't had that right since the civil rights era. These may be unpleasant facts but thats what they are, facts.
    You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
    The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Theres no such thing as states rights there haven't been any since the civil war when the South committed treason and Lincoln invaded as a result.


    We don't have freedom of association. We haven't had that right since the civil rights era. These may be unpleasant facts but thats what they are, facts.
    You have ignored some of my best efforts. Do you read a lot of National Socialist literature? Adolph Hitler observed the "Big Lie" technique. Just to paraphrase a part of it, it is easier to believe a lie told a thousand times than a truth that nobody ever heard before. Seems to me you are either ignoring reality or believing what the left is telling you.

    States DO have Rights. That is what the discussion has been about. Back in the 1990s, several sheriffs across America refused to get involved in federally mandated background checks as per legislation signed into law by Bill Clinton. At the time I knew, and supported, Richard Mack, one of the original plaintiffs. Various lawsuits were combined and the case finally ended up in the United States Supreme Court. Let review the relevant part of the ruling:

    "The Court explained that federalism in the United States is based upon “dual sovereignty”, quoting Federalist No. 39's assurance that states retain "a residual and inviolable sovereignty".[6] The Court stated that the Framers designed the Constitution to allow Federal regulation of international and interstate matters, not internal matters reserved to the State Legislatures.

    The Court expressed a worry that Members of Congress might take credit for “solving” a problem with policies that impose all the financial and administrative burden, as well as the blame, on local officials.[10] The Court quoted Federalist No. 51’s argument that by giving voters control over dual sovereign governments “a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same that each will be controlled by itself.”[11] The Court concluded that allowing the Federal government to draft the police officers of the 50 states into its service would increase its powers far beyond what the Constitution intends
    ."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printz_v._United_States

    This is the precedent that San Francisco used in their briefs to support their stance on sanctuary cities. So, YES, states rights do exist (maybe not at the level we'd like, but they do exist) and we need that leverage in our own legal strategies going forward.

    Secondly, we do have some Freedom of Association. We can still gather on boards like this one; we can hold Bible studies in homes - and even build churches when we can find the support. Again, it's certainly not on the level we would like - and nowhere close to what the founders intended, but we still have limited Rights. No sense not acknowledging and using those advantages we do have and it makes even less sense to destroy what advantages we have just because the fairies in San Fran Freako are able to benefit off of them.

    I'm more concerned about what we can build with what we have. It makes NO sense to me to destroy what few advantages we do have to hurt and adversary that has virtually all the advantages.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Theres no such thing as states rights there haven't been any since the civil war when the South committed treason and Lincoln invaded as a result.


    We don't have freedom of association. We haven't had that right since the civil rights era. These may be unpleasant facts but thats what they are, facts.
    Spot on Astragoth. The white race is in the process of genocide. I value the privilege now to write and post other racialists. To express sorrow and encouragement to others being affected by this awful genocide being inflected on us. I support the preacher and view to his fine sermons.
    Yahweh inspired David to write the book of Psalms. Part of it read a man's lifespan is a flash in the pan. Stay away from lawsuits and its misery. Lets be tenderhearted and kind to one another. As the years go by;; the genocide is only going to get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frey#89 View Post
    Spot on Astragoth. The white race is in the process of genocide. I value the privilege now to write and post other racialists. To express sorrow and encouragement to others being affected by this awful genocide being inflected on us. I support the preacher and view to his fine sermons.
    Yahweh inspired David to write the book of Psalms. Part of it read a man's lifespan is a flash in the pan. Stay away from lawsuits and its misery. Lets be tenderhearted and kind to one another. As the years go by;; the genocide is only going to get worse.
    So, you believe that the sheriffs should not have challenged gun control and a federal government that would have used its power to infringe on the Second Amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheResister View Post
    So, you believe that the sheriffs should not have challenged gun control and a federal government that would have used its power to infringe on the Second Amendment?
    I appreciate racial kinsmen like yourself playing the systems game to reduce the suffering of racial genocide. I still believe it is the mercy of Yahweh that won a few legal pleas of mercy of our people. I meant no dishonor to the sacrifice of time given of our community leaders and preachers like yourself.
    Praise Jesus Christ for having mercy on the remnant. Thank Jesus for the time given by our kinsmen to make life possible for the remnant.

    Literally the won legal cases were clearly responsible for any quality of life for our people worldwide. Not to mention the memory of charity and good the white race has done worldwide for the whole world. Make no mistake it is the will of Yahweh that saves our people now. No man is above Jesus Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frey#89 View Post
    I appreciate racial kinsmen like yourself playing the systems game to reduce the suffering of racial genocide. I still believe it is the mercy of Yahweh that won a few legal pleas of mercy of our people. I meant no dishonor to the sacrifice of time given of our community leaders and preachers like yourself.
    Praise Jesus Christ for having mercy on the remnant. Thank Jesus for the time given by our kinsmen to make life possible for the remnant.

    Literally the won legal cases were clearly responsible for any quality of life for our people worldwide. Not to mention the memory of charity and good the white race has done worldwide for the whole world. Make no mistake it is the will of Yahweh that saves our people now. No man is above Jesus Christ.
    Pretty much this. If you have the patience to work the legal system then more power to you. All of us have our own gifts.
    You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
    The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Pretty much this. If you have the patience to work the legal system then more power to you. All of us have our own gifts.
    I hasten to thank you and point out something for the readers of this site.

    For many years I was involved in the political and legal avenues, thinking we could somehow reclaim America through the legal and political process. My experience includes managing political campaigns for people that got elected all the way up to the level of a state representative; I have helped draft model legislation; did legal research in two cases that went before and were won in the United States Supreme Court. At a personal level, I've been successful in court 33 times, having never lost and never over-turned on an appeal.

    SOME of the issues we were involved with in Georgia was to fight the attempts to use the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number" as identification. We unequivocally proved that if a person did not have the SSN, they were not liable for the income tax. Neither did they have to relinquish any God given Rights (the Declaration of Independence calls them unalienable Rights.) We fought the illegally ratified 14th Amendment which created two distinct classes of citizens, then reduced us all to 14th Amendment subjects having NO Rights and being subject to an illegal / de facto government. This led to peripheral fights like the assaults on religion, the Right of Free Assembly, Second Amendment Rights, etc.

    Throughout the 1990s, I was involved in civilian militias and we were instrumental in protecting private property along the southern border.

    After 9 / 11 the Tea Party and the anti - immigrant forces came to the forefront. The problem was that their strategies wiped out all the progress that had been made over the past fifty years. Joining the anti-immigrant lobby was constitutionalists... and sad to say, even Christian Identity folks. The duty of Christians is to be good stewards and not allow the enemies of our faith gain an advantage over us. It would be better if those who do not understand the system did not try and develop opinions nor get into lobbying. I'm not trying to be condescending here. It's just that the political arm of our race has managed to erase fifty years of progress while putting the enemies of America in charge via the so - called "Patriot Act," REAL ID Act, the end to private property Rights, the end of the notion of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty, and a general expansion of government.

    Last year I had to throw in the towel. The guys who have made a religion out of misapplying immigration laws have screwed this country over but good. And now they want to make citizens out of the mixed multitude!!!!! In another generation, all that anti-immigrant hysteria will be moot when the "legal" non-white citizens become a force bigger than whites.

    Maybe one of my own sermons one day would be a lesson on how the Bible instructs us to out-think our adversaries.

    Yahweh Bless

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheResister View Post
    I hasten to thank you and point out something for the readers of this site.

    For many years I was involved in the political and legal avenues, thinking we could somehow reclaim America through the legal and political process. My experience includes managing political campaigns for people that got elected all the way up to the level of a state representative; I have helped draft model legislation; did legal research in two cases that went before and were won in the United States Supreme Court. At a personal level, I've been successful in court 33 times, having never lost and never over-turned on an appeal.

    SOME of the issues we were involved with in Georgia was to fight the attempts to use the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, "Social Security Number" as identification. We unequivocally proved that if a person did not have the SSN, they were not liable for the income tax. Neither did they have to relinquish any God given Rights (the Declaration of Independence calls them unalienable Rights.) We fought the illegally ratified 14th Amendment which created two distinct classes of citizens, then reduced us all to 14th Amendment subjects having NO Rights and being subject to an illegal / de facto government. This led to peripheral fights like the assaults on religion, the Right of Free Assembly, Second Amendment Rights, etc.

    Throughout the 1990s, I was involved in civilian militias and we were instrumental in protecting private property along the southern border.

    After 9 / 11 the Tea Party and the anti - immigrant forces came to the forefront. The problem was that their strategies wiped out all the progress that had been made over the past fifty years. Joining the anti-immigrant lobby was constitutionalists... and sad to say, even Christian Identity folks. The duty of Christians is to be good stewards and not allow the enemies of our faith gain an advantage over us. It would be better if those who do not understand the system did not try and develop opinions nor get into lobbying. I'm not trying to be condescending here. It's just that the political arm of our race has managed to erase fifty years of progress while putting the enemies of America in charge via the so - called "Patriot Act," REAL ID Act, the end to private property Rights, the end of the notion of a presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty, and a general expansion of government.

    Last year I had to throw in the towel. The guys who have made a religion out of misapplying immigration laws have screwed this country over but good. And now they want to make citizens out of the mixed multitude!!!!! In another generation, all that anti-immigrant hysteria will be moot when the "legal" non-white citizens become a force bigger than whites.

    Maybe one of my own sermons one day would be a lesson on how the Bible instructs us to out-think our adversaries.

    Yahweh Bless
    Pretty much so. All though my lifetime. White people in general viewed racial identity as scaring and playing with the emotions of others.

    In my opinion;;; without freedom of association the average white person will and have been corrupted by the Jew poison multiculturalism or be a outcast in their societies. To much patience and hard work for the population of a nation-state to unite without freedom of association. Something that divided the working class and the management classes. No freedom of association is clearly the best term for our on going genocide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frey#89 View Post
    Pretty much so. All though my lifetime. White people in general viewed racial identity as scaring and playing with the emotions of others.

    In my opinion;;; without freedom of association the average white person will and have been corrupted by the Jew poison multiculturalism or be a outcast in their societies. To much patience and hard work for the population of a nation-state to unite without freedom of association. Something that divided the working class and the management classes. No freedom of association is clearly the best term for our on going genocide.

    With the ADL being employed to monitor and remove as much of our message as possible on YouTube, along with other groups trying to post as much personal info about racialists:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...t-ids-marchers

    it appears to me that this subtle form of genocide is now becoming blatant. So, here is the question:

    How does this genocidal program fit into the sanctuary city issue?

    The first thing to consider is that San Francisco used a precedent from the right to insure that the locals do not have to comply with the feds. That same precedent is what saved our Right to keep and bear Arms. So, we cannot dismiss its importance - even if someone found a way for it to benefit them.

    No rational Christian Identity believer would even want to go to San Francisco. I lived near the Haight - Ashbury area for several months. It was the worst year of my life. Despite the fact that there are a lot of rich people there, Haight - Ashbury was hippie town - not much except white chicks with black dudes, stupid males thinking they were girls, easy access to drugs, and nothing resembling white people's culture. So, why do we fret over that modern day Sodom and Gomorrah?

    Now, let us examine the precedent.

    Craig Cobb was a "white supremacist" (sic) that bought up foreclosed properties in North Dakota and Nebraska. He would then give the properties to fellow white racialists and I think his objective was to build all white cities. Unfortunately, most of the thundering idiots the political end of the white movement appeals to are clueless. Instead of going into the community, refurbishing the property and becoming assets to the community, they wanted to waste their money on white power flags, and making a spectacle of themselves as if they had a lot of political clout.

    What they should have done was to go into the city and build up their property, adding to its value. Without harping on their racial views, they could have become active in the political arena and made it easier for people to come to these neighborhoods, but all the while just making it easier for their kinsmen to emigrate there. Soon, they would have a white people's version of what San Francisco has. AND they would have their own local elected officials. AND THEN, the very same precedent that San Francisco uses to keep out the feds would be available to those who build a white community in one of the many desolate enclaves left in America.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Interesting; walk and live quietly. then quietly help other kinsmen migrate out our the multicultural hell holes around the world into cities where other oppressed white people are. . Perhaps the Jew brainwashed stalking gangs who hate us white guys will lighten up somehow and then we migrate. Northwest front has put out a similar idea.

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