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    DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    According to The Washington Times, Nielsen confirmed Tuesday that her department has asked federal prosecutors to see if they can lodge criminal charges against sanctuary cities that refuse to cooperate with federal deportation efforts.

    “The Department of Justice is reviewing what avenues may be available,” Ms. Nielsen told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Her confirmation came after California’s new sanctuary law went into effect Jan. 1, severely restricting cooperation the state or any of its localities could offer.
    I hope this one is true. These people are traitors.
    You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
    The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    I hope this one is true. These people are traitors.
    "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." Isaiah 1 :18

    This is a complex topic of which I have made a significant amount of enemies over. At the same time, America has been visited with all kinds of curses for our failure to heed his Word and to think strategically. America has a problem. Foreigners are flooding our borders and it is getting to the point of no return. The mainstream of America says it's okay provided these people become "legal citizens." And so, for the last couple of decades, I'm left scratching my head.

    If we give America over to the mixed multitude via some"legal" process, it is okay??? Should that also be the position of Christian Israelites? If so, what's the point? If America is to be run by the third world, why should I care if they have human registration papers?

    My next point here is that there are several ways of addressing an issue. There is the morality of a situation. There is the legality of the situation. Then there is the reality of the situation. Can we look at them?

    The morality of America is that we were founded as a homeland for the white people. The very first Nationality Act was in 1790. It restricted immigration to "any alien, being a free white person." Racial inter-marriage was outlawed. Our land was blessed more than any other in history.

    The legality of the situation is much more complex. While citizenship was limited to free white persons all the way up to the illegally ratified 14th Amendment, America allowed every color of person from sunset to midnight to come here and take advantage of opportunities willingly offered. Add to that the institution of slavery.

    So, here we have a nation that was supposed to be our homeland, but it is now filled with the mixed multitude. And then they pass the 14th Amendment. The most significant court case affecting this discussion happened in 1876 in the case of Chy Lung v. Freeman 92 U.S. 275 (1876) . In that case the United States Supreme Court granted "plenary powers" over immigration to the federal government. That was not constitutional NOR was it a good idea.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chy_Lung_v._Freeman

    I'll trust that you will access and read that case before reading further.

    It is to be noted here that the United States Supreme Court chastised "the State of California, the{State} Commissioner of Immigration, and the Sheriff of San Francisco, for not presenting any arguments on their behalf in the case." My point here is that the decision as to who should and should not be allowed into California was a STATE decision, not a federal one. So, the state had jurisdiction over who should and should not be allowed into California. Additionally, that the state should be able to make that decision was standard operating procedure and all the founding fathers were alive during the entire time that we had state immigration officers.

    The statute that brought Chy Lung into the United States Supreme Court was one wherein California denied entry on the basis that California determined that Chy Lung was "lewd and debauched." In short, California's laws were a response to the 14th Amendment that allowed just about anyone to become a citizen of the United States. California, at that time, used the state immigration commissioner's office as a way to thwart the open citizenship policies that were brought about by the 14th Amendment.

    And so, my position on this is a simple observation: While citizenship was limited to free white persons, the states had the authority to determine who could come and go as guests. California went a bit too far in 1875 to please the feds (though their intent was admirable.)

    The legality of this situation relative to immigration is that in 1997, in the case of Printz v. United States 521 U.S. 898 (1997), the United States Supreme Court explained:

    "... federalism in the United States is based upon “dual sovereignty”, quoting Federalist No. 39's assurance that states retain "a residual and inviolable sovereignty".[6] The Court stated that the Framers designed the Constitution to allow Federal regulation of international and interstate matters, not internal matters reserved to the State Legislatures.

    The Court expressed a worry that Members of Congress might take credit for “solving” a problem with policies that impose all the financial and administrative burden, as well as the blame, on local officials.[10] The Court quoted Federalist No. 51’s argument that by giving voters control over dual sovereign governments “a double security arises to the rights of the people. The different governments will control each other, at the same that each will be controlled by itself.”[11] The Court concluded that allowing the Federal government to draft the police officers of the 50 states into its service would increase its powers far beyond what the Constitution intends.
    (This case involved forcing sheriffs to enforce the Brady Bill - an anti- gun law.)

    Fast forward to sanctuary cities...

    Last year Judge William Orrick blocked Donald Trump's efforts to implement sanctions (namely funding) against San Francisco. San Francisco used the Printz decision as precedent to maintain sanctuary cities. At a personal level, I would think that the federal government can withhold federal funds to any state or local government that don't do what the feds want. At a personal level, I welcome it because I truly believe that governance is best done at the local level.

    But, let's get back on track here. IF San Francisco cannot decide who comes and goes within their communities, then we're back to the feds being able to implement gun confiscation schemes... and who knows what else will fall into their purview? The view of the courts are that states and local communities are not bound to enforce immigration laws. As such, if your state felt that a background check to purchase a weapon or the right to open a church that had a theology at odds with the mainstream was not a federal law they wanted to help enforce, they are protected by that precedent.

    The reality of our situation is that those of us professing to be Christian Identity have no real political voice. What we DO have is the ability to become master strategists of our own situation. In Matthew 10 : 16 we read:

    "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

    The current strategy is for our side to believe that we are in charge of the political / legal situation. What a delusional position! Satan is in charge of this New World Order. You don't win by playing the game as per Satan's rules. You have to be as devious as Satan is.

    There was once an old country song called "The Farmers Almanac" sung by Johnny Cash. One line in it says:

    "It says in the Farmers Almanac - If a man could have half his wishes, he would just double his trouble."

    I do not believe that San Francisco giving sanctuary to undocumented foreigners is treasonous. Stupid? Probably. But, what should happen is to allow them to do it. San Francisco has become the epitome of a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. But, you and I will benefit immensely off the precedent. Imagine the small towns that may welcome us, as a community, to the chagrin of Uncle Scam. Imagine the constitutional Liberties we can save one community at a time.

    Here is your alternative:

    The current view is to have the atmosphere of the pee test, blood test, hair sample, MVR check, credit check, criminal background check, National ID Card, driver's license, Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops, " Social Security Number," occupation license, firearm's license, voter registration, Medical ID, proof of auto insurance, debit card, credit card, and submission to warrant less search and seizures... all under the pretext of protecting you from so - called "illegal aliens."

    "16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
    Revelations 13 : 16 thru 18

    So, in our zeal to deal with so - called "illegal immigration," we allow the beast to create that atmosphere whereby we accept the Mark of the Beast. We cut ourselves off from being able to resist that system. We give absolute and total control over our lives to a tyrannical government that demands our absolute and total loyalty. It's a bad idea.

    There are better ways. For example, it would be easier to get a constitutional amendment passed allowing a president to cut off federal funds to an affected area of the law if the state / local government did not want to participate in enforcing certain laws. It would be constitutional IF the funds withheld were related to what you want to address.

    We could allow employers to hire whomever they want and then create tax incentives for employers who hire an all American staff; take Americans off the welfare dole, unemployment and disability. IF an employer can hire whomever they want and get a tax incentive to hire Americans, it nullifies anti-discrimination laws. Liberals won't understand it. Then the guy who wants to hire an all white workforce can legally do it. If the left can have half their wishes, they would double their trouble. It's better than us giving them the tools to con us into accepting the Mark of the Beast.

    Okay, more later... if we need to cover it all. But, it is hardly treasonous to observe those separations of power and jurisdictional lines... those things necessary if we are to use the law to save our race from extinction.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Okay, more later... if we need to cover it all. But, it is hardly treasonous to observe those separations of power and jurisdictional lines...
    Nonsense treason is exactly what it is. We have a Jewdicial system where a group of talmudic rabbis make law as they see fit and ignore both the people and the executive branch.
    They've been overstepping their bounds for decades.
    In the time since they've wormed their way into our institutions they've done incalculable damage. Abortion, school desegregation, faggot "marriage." I don't care what a jew thinks is
    legal or lawful, it isn't. In earlier times these people would be put up against a wall and shot.
    You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
    The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    Nonsense treason is exactly what it is. We have a Jewdicial system where a group of talmudic rabbis make law as they see fit and ignore both the people and the executive branch.
    They've been overstepping their bounds for decades.
    In the time since they've wormed their way into our institutions they've done incalculable damage. Abortion, school desegregation, faggot "marriage." I don't care what a jew thinks is
    legal or lawful, it isn't. In earlier times these people would be put up against a wall and shot.
    And our people have this unfortunate predilection to follow the same strategies that caused us to get into this predicament.

    For the life of me I cannot figure out why Christian Identity adherents have such a difficult time differentiating between citizenship and people operating in a free market economy. Why have they joined the National Socialists in accepting foreigners if they pass muster on some idiotic notion of coming into the United States "legally?"

    As I understand it, your position is that if a state refuses to relinquish their state sovereignty to a potentially illegal / de facto government, they have committed treason? Let's forget the fact that we have but ONE sovereign, let's go with what you have told me:

    You believe in a strong national government. That means you support the federalists. Correct? I would submit that those closest to the faith were anti-federalists. That makes me an anti-federalist. We can complain about the Jews all day long, but it has been through a big federal government that America was lost. I side with people like Patrick Henry (distrustful of the side that "won.")

    http://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/popup_henry.html

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    I figure the more western civilization as a whole rejects Jesus Christ. The more dictatorial and corrupt society gets. Its corruption not lake of intelligence that keeps the border control laws out of control. So many in our societies are hostile to the white Israelite remnant for a favorite status in the ZOG economy.
    In my experience many racial kinsmen live in a world where they are unemployable if they are labeled a white separatist. I can safely write a man needs to be self employed if you have racial views. Hard for the lower classes contribute to ending corruption or favoritism in the wake of under employment, gang stalking, lack of public respect ect....
    The posts were thoughtful and wise. Make me think on the issue more

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    Quote Originally Posted by frey#89 View Post
    I figure the more western civilization as a whole rejects Jesus Christ. The more dictatorial and corrupt society gets. Its corruption not lake of intelligence that keeps the border control laws out of control. So many in our societies are hostile to the white Israelite remnant for a favorite status in the ZOG economy.
    In my experience many racial kinsmen live in a world where they are unemployable if they are labeled a white separatist. I can safely write a man needs to be self employed if you have racial views. Hard for the lower classes contribute to ending corruption or favoritism in the wake of under employment, gang stalking, lack of public respect ect....
    The posts were thoughtful and wise. Make me think on the issue more
    A lot of our white racial kinsmen have become unemployable for a host of reasons: drug addicts and they can't pass drug tests, criminal records, and / or the lack of an education / job skills. Besides the hue of their skin, there are other reasons. When I've advertised on Craigslist for people to do handyman work, only two kinds of people that show up: self proclaimed "contractors" who charge as much as a surgeon for their time and the van full of Hispanics.

    The elderly, disabled, and low income types sometimes get into a position where, if they pay for odd jobs at a rate consistent with a surgeon's wages, they then begin having to choose between eating, taking medicine or fixing what is wrong at their house. Case in point:

    A few months ago a pressure release valve went out on my water heater. I had the wife pick up another at Home Depot and I called a few "handymen." A guy shows up in a van worth about 50 grand and takes over twenty minutes to prepare an "estimate." He wanted $240. Yeah, right like I'm going to pay that. I called a friend who came over. He changed it out in 15 minutes and I gave him $30.

    When I related this story on political sites, the alt-right and the White Nationalists gave me their standard holier than thou canard... like any idiot can change out a pressure release valve. Of course, they obviously have no experience with the elderly, disabled, non-mechanical types. In my own case, I had just come home from extensive surgery. My stomach had gotten pushed up to the point it was surrounding my heart and all of that had gotten pushed into my transversing colon and then rested on my lung. It was an 11 hour operation and the doctor told me not to even think about doing anything physical for at least six weeks lest I destroy his efforts. That never factors in to the political arguments when we start talking about these so - called sanctuary cities.

    I call them so- called because no matter what a city, county, or state does, it does not impact what the federal government does. If the feds have a warrant for someone without papers, they cannot be denied entry by a local government. In this context, it is a legal principle at stake. When the feds want to dictate the education of your children, what kind of firearm you might own, or even whether we can organize a DSCI church, that principle may be of the utmost importance.

    IMO, we need to find out why we have more people in prisons than any nation on the planet. How come our own are not entrepreneurial or at least willing to get out and work? How come so many of our own are on drugs, both legal and illegal? Is it due to the breakdown of the family unit? Do the ministers of the Word not share some of the blame by not going out in the community and getting involved in hands on kind of work?

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    IMO, we need to find out why we have more people in prisons than any nation on the planet. How come our own are not entrepreneurial or at least willing to get out and work? How come so many of our own are on drugs, both legal and illegal? Is it due to the breakdown of the family unit? Do the ministers of the Word not share some of the blame by not going out in the community and getting involved in hands on kind of work?
    I'll answer all of them.
    1. Niggers. Remove niggers from our country (and beaners) and the crime rate of the USA is about that of Belgium
    2. Whites aren't wanted only pakis and beaners.
    3. Whites have no hope and no future.We have a jewish run government and media that wants us dead and our children raped and they think its funny. So drugs is an escape.
    Also the kikes have been getting rural whites hooked on synthetic heroin for 20 years.
    4. What family? Shrieking feminist whores do not make good wives.
    5. Most ministers are useless Judeos.
    You know what the difference between the jews and the Nazis is?
    The jews are actually guilty of the crimes their accused of.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Astragoth View Post
    I'll answer all of them.
    1. Niggers. Remove niggers from our country (and beaners) and the crime rate of the USA is about that of Belgium
    2. Whites aren't wanted only pakis and beaners.
    3. Whites have no hope and no future.We have a jewish run government and media that wants us dead and our children raped and they think its funny. So drugs is an escape.
    Also the kikes have been getting rural whites hooked on synthetic heroin for 20 years.
    4. What family? Shrieking feminist whores do not make good wives.
    5. Most ministers are useless Judeos.
    That is a sad commentary. If I accepted your position, there would be no need to spread the Gospel. Only those who think the Jews are smarter and in control do not have a future. Remember that.

    While you are carving today's leaders a new one, what are you yourself doing? Do you know what being a good steward is all about?

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    I don't see the DHS doing anything. The government is totally worthless. They allow the Supreme Court to make up the rules and change the Biblical laws this Nation was founded on.

    As far as sanctuary cities go it is a felony to harbor illegal immigrants. The city/county council members and other elected officials in those areas should be arrested as well as the police for not enforcing the laws.

    All they do is talk about how to fix the problem...The only problem is no one is enforcing the laws and deporting all of them. If they did their job we wouldn't have this problem.

    On a side note, because the majority of our people are not following the True Jesus we're dealing with all the curses of Deuteronomy 28 etc.

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    Re: DHS looking into arresting sanctuary city mayors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    I don't see the DHS doing anything. The government is totally worthless. They allow the Supreme Court to make up the rules and change the Biblical laws this Nation was founded on.

    As far as sanctuary cities go it is a felony to harbor illegal immigrants. The city/county council members and other elected officials in those areas should be arrested as well as the police for not enforcing the laws.

    All they do is talk about how to fix the problem...The only problem is no one is enforcing the laws and deporting all of them. If they did their job we wouldn't have this problem.

    On a side note, because the majority of our people are not following the True Jesus we're dealing with all the curses of Deuteronomy 28 etc.
    There are no biblical laws applicable to San Francisco. It is modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. In due time they will receive the curses - and they won't be yours to deliver.

    What's at stake in the immigration battle is that of legal principle - American jurisprudence 101. The federal government telling a state who they can or cannot invite into their state is unconstitutional. And, if you don't use your critical thinking skills, you are only aiding the Jews you indict with words.

    "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves." Matthew 23 : 15

    You are too focused on immigration laws. You have to work backward, using critical thinking skills. States can invite whomever they want and states do not have to enforce federal laws. Neither would you want them to. Think stare decisis / precedent. Don't let your intolerance for the undocumented foreigner blind you to the bigger picture.

    Without YOUR ability to exercise Freedom of Association, you nad I cannot build Christian congregations and organize to resist the advances of Satan.

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