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PHILnBOAZ
12-29-2015, 10:00 PM
@christogenea you will see my name giving praise to the people that run that site. They have now taken my real name which I never posted by or with there and used it as they see fit. I no longer endorse them or their (his) Wm.-ology. My experiences there were pleasant to begin with. It doesn't take anyone, but someone brand new to the DSCI message, to realize that it is nothing but a fan club. While there I NEVER heard him say anything decent about any other pastor. Even the ones he provides sites for. There is a particular CI pastor who writes much commentary and his work speaks to me. I like his writing style and skills. They sent me numerous emails back-biting and praising themselves because, like Paul of Tarsus, they gave away. I don't know what their real mission is. Money, I suspect. So to all those who pass by there, just dare to speak your own mind or point out their flawed doctrines. They will accept any and all as long as you sing their praises. Do not be fooled! They have no doctrinal statement because there is no doctrine. You can believe in a literal Satan or not. You can believe in literal angels or not. Of course their most telling statement of faith is "If the KJV isn't good enough" just write your own N.T. What Blasphemy! So when you see my name there, it isn't necessarily what I've ever posted. If you ain't in the fan club and don't agree w/ everything they have too say...Beware. There really are tares amongst the wheat.

K-2
12-30-2015, 12:30 AM
Him and his mentor Martin Lindstedt (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-618627.mp3) will use hundreds of sockpuppets to speak for you, friend. Consider it a badge of honor. I originally signed up to ask how he considers "the sons of God" or angels to be non-whites yet after I got banned my account strangely lives on praising this guy as a "scholar" and "the greatest teacher since Paul." The same MO is used by this Lindstedt freak.

Besides, I can't trust the jewdar of a clown who openly admits he worked with "a jew November" for years. You're in the right place. Stay with men ordained in the line of Swift, not these self-appointed twerps attempting to "correct" their doctrines and what has always been truth. ;)

seedliner
12-30-2015, 09:15 AM
No, "real Christian pastors" threaten to sodomize men live on air:

http://picosong.com/FYRY/

Meanwhile, everyone in CI wonders how he claims OUR dual seedline title.

frey#89
12-30-2015, 12:47 PM
short comment... Proverbs chapter 28 verse 26-27 --- Philnboaz I agree with you. --- Great to write posts on a forum that helps spread Christianity to those who do not get represented very well. Yahweh bless this folks who run the site.

PHILnBOAZ
12-30-2015, 07:02 PM
Him and his mentor Martin Lindstedt (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-111132/TS-618627.mp3) will use hundreds of sockpuppets to speak for you, friend. Consider it a badge of honor. I originally signed up to ask how he considers "the sons of God" or angels to be non-whites yet after I got banned my account strangely lives on praising this guy as a "scholar" and "the greatest teacher since Paul." The same MO is used by this Lindstedt freak.

Besides, I can't trust the jewdar of a clown who openly admits he worked with "a jew November" for years. You're in the right place. Stay with men ordained in the line of Swift, not these self-appointed twerps attempting to "correct" their doctrines and what has always been truth. ;) I have found the best ministry of it's kind hear @ CPM. best advice I ever got from the rabbi's fan club.

Gabriel
12-31-2015, 08:55 AM
I've found it's the "dark swarthy ones" that continually attack those accepted and ordained by Butler.

The two biggest slanderers happen to spend their time attacking those they can never be, lulz.

K-2
12-31-2015, 09:23 AM
You may be interested to find what that self-appointed clown claims is the very reason jews have their bar mitvahs:


Although some forms of Judaism, both ancient and modern, do recognise the existence of supernatural evil, in particular fallen angels (as in the Dead Sea scrolls), the yetzer hara is often presented as a personification of evil distinct from the supernatural Satan of traditional Christianity and Islam. This tendency to demythologize Satan is found in the Babylonian Talmud and other rabbinical works, e.g.: "Resh Laqish said: Satan, the evil inclination, and the Angel of Death are all one." Notably, however, this and other passages of the Talmud do not deny the external existence of Satan, but create a synthesis between external and internal forces of evil. Similar tendencies can also be found in some Enlightenment Christian writers, such as in the religious writings of Isaac Newton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yetzer_hara


He is the incarnation of all evil, and his thoughts and activities are devoted to the destruction of man; so that Satan, the impulse to evil ("yeẓer ha-ra'"), and the angel of death are one and the same personality. He descends from heaven and leads astray, then ascends and brings accusations against mankind. Receiving the divine commission, he takes away the soul, or, in other words, he slays (B. B. 16a). He seizes upon even a single word which may be prejudicial to man; so that "one should not open his mouth unto evil," i.e., "unto Satan" (Ber. 19a). In times of danger likewise he brings his accusations (Yer. Shab. 5b et passim). While he has power over all the works of man (Ber. 46b), he can not prevail at the same time against two individuals of different nationality; so that Samuel, a noted astronomer and teacher of the Law (d. at Nehardea 247), would start on a journey only when a Gentile traveled with him (Shab. 32a).

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13219-satan


Satan is often identified as a person’s evil inclination in Jewish thought -- an internal counterbalance to one’s good inclination, both of which are under a person’s control. Satan is also the Angel of Death (Bava Bathra 16a), an angel whose duty is to take the souls of individuals whose time has come. Finally, Satan is the angel who tests individuals, tempts them into sin, and then testifies against them in the Heavenly tribunal, hence the name "accuser."

Evil inclination, angel of death, accuser, trickster: Are these distinct entities or merely facets of the same complex creation? Here is how the Talmud describes what this angel looks like:

It is said regarding the Angel of Death that he is full of eyes. When a sick person is about to die, he stands above his head with his sword drawn and a drop of poison hanging from the tip. When the sick person sees him, he trembles and opens his mouth [in terror]. He then drops the poison into his [victim’s] mouth (Avodah Zarah 20b).

http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/economic/friedman/SatanHumor.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud7fDvOen_A

There's no denying some folks claim to be CI and spend all their time defiling it by injecting unadulterated judaism.

We used to have a whole thread proving this clown taught 100% opposite of scripture - where is it?

seedliner
01-02-2016, 06:14 AM
We used to have a whole thread proving this clown taught 100% opposite of scripture - where is it?

Proven jews that push pure judaism yet attack everyone in CI ( all while never being it ):

http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/showthread.php?10-quot-Pastor-quot-William-Raymond-Finck-amp-Christogenos
http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/showthread.php?561-Stormfront-amp-quot-Pastor-quot-Mark-Downey-s-Phony-No-Satan-Dogma

Plenty of proof "satan is flesh" is directly from the Babylonian Talmud in those threads, enjoy!

frey#89
01-02-2016, 01:29 PM
Good point seedliner. In my opinion. I read numerous scriptures in the 1977 NKJ version of the bible about yahweh using parables to avoid political incorrect hate laws issued by the edomites. Hard to speak honestly about Satan with another race of people in control of your society.

PHILnBOAZ
01-13-2016, 10:31 AM
http://picosong.com/FYRY/ I have listened to this rant by "a real (self-appointed) pastor" several times. While I agree w/ the rabbi on several points he makes here it always comes down to "him". He loves to associate his name and works w/ Pastor Comparet and declares himself a follower of "A REAL Pastor" while disagreeing w/ him on most major doctrinal points. About the only thing the rabbi agrees w/ Pastor Comparet on is the "local flood" theory. He doesn't accept a Sabbath... so out the window w/ the 4th Commandment. Wonder what Paul would say about that rabbi ? Oh yeah, he loves to proclaim himself the great defender of Paul while tossing out most of his (Paul's) works and replacing them w/ his (rabbi's). I wonder if Paul observed a Sabbath, rabbi? I'm pretty sure YeHoShua did. You can also eat unclean meat (according to rabbi) as long as it doesn't offend your brother. He also loves to say he "gives" away all his work (like Paul did) while others like a contribution for some of their work. Sure, doesn't that enable him to reach more gullible people? Also there is no literal Satan or literal angels. In fact you can believe anything you want as long as you believe the rabbi. Sad thing is he has a real live fan club there. Much like Mickey Mouse has one. He now has my name plastered all over the place @ rabbi-o-genea singing his praises I'm sure. Only problem w/ that is, I NEVER posted anything there using my real name and so whatever is written there I'll not take credit for. If you remember, when I questioned him on doctrine, he used the user name "PHILonBOOZE" to publish whatever posts he attributed to me. This is "a real pastor" remember or so he proclaims. How about it rabbi ? And we know you are reading this and for whatever reason are infatuated w/ me. As "a real pastor" I tried to make peace w/ the rabbi and so once again he shows his true colors and continues to use my name @ the Rabbi's fan club while snubbing me on the "man to man" basis. I guess I should have expected that since he had to surrender his "manhood" while in prison and seek out the protection of the penal authorities. I guess this was before he accepted Christ as his savior and had to rely on "the man" for salvation. I forgive you rabbi...I just don't believe in you!

K-2
01-13-2016, 02:02 PM
I find it's usually the idiots that write their own Bible that are at odds with the Living Word. They can't adapt themselves to scripture thus attempt to redefine their own cults according to their own lives. For example the plagiarized CNT has no John 8:1-15 (the adulterous woman) - I wonder why?

We have Screwey Dewey Tucker who wants folks to think Christ is an ignorant redneck with his "Dixie Bible."
Then we have Van Herrell, another exposed cop that was serving ZOG all along, with his A.S.T. (garbage).
Now, enter 10th-grade dropout and delusional ZOG servant "warden" Finck with his "God's Penis" translation.

...and the Word of Yahweh still abides forever while such trash is vomited out for "adding to and taking away." You don't have to be a genius to know these are perverts and infiltrators, methinks. They can't stand on the Authorized because they're simply NOT risen by Yahweh, but self.

I've NEVER heard anybody say Rabbi Finck is a "scholar" nor accepted as CI except from the whoremonger's many sockpuppets which are himself. That speaks volumes.

Joe
01-13-2016, 05:00 PM
This raises a valid question. How do we Identists deal with those that are obviously retarded to everyone but themselves? In this I mean the stutterers and grunters like Marty and Bill that think they're smart because they're cracked and don't know any better?

Is it best just to avoid or risk looking slanderous like them in being watchmen and pointing out their lunacy? I know Bill has zero creditability in CI so how much of a threat is he to us really?

Gabriel
01-14-2016, 12:57 AM
Leave them be, they are blind leaders of the blind.

Crossman
01-14-2016, 01:29 PM
K-2 said
“I find it's usually the idiots that write their own Bible that are at odds with the Living Word."

Surely your not saying Wycliffe, Phillips, Van der Pool, Wuest, Williams, Beck, Herrell, Tyndale, Thomson, Brown, Comfort, Webster and Brenton are all idiots? I am amazed at such a comment.

Continuing:
They can't adapt themselves to scripture thus attempt to redefine their own cults according to their own lives. For example the plagiarized CNT has no John 8:1-15 (the adulterous woman) - I wonder why?

That is is excellent question. Why Mr. Finck failed to explain this in a footnote is beyond me. May I quote Early Manuscripts & Modern Translations, Phillip Comfort , Baker Books, page 115:


“The periscope about the adulteress woman (John 7:53 -8:11) is not included in any of the earliest MSS (second-fourth century}, including to to earliest, p66 and p75 (see photos 5 and 6. Its first appearance in a Greek MS is in D, but it is not contained in other Greek MSS until the ninth century. No Greek church father comments on this passage prior to the 12th century – until Euthymius Zigabenus, who himself declares that accurate copies do not contain it. When the story is inserted in later MSS, it appears in different places: after John 6:52, after Luke 21:38, at the end of John; and when it does appear it is often marked off by asterisks or obeli to signal it’s probable spuriousness. The story is part of the oral tradition that was included in the Syrian Pe****ta, circulated in the Western church, eventually finding it’s way into the Latin Vulgate, and from these into later Greek MSS, the like of which were used in formulating the Textus Receptus (Metzger).”

This is why these verses are either bracketed or removed with footnote in almost all post KJV bibles except other strictly Textus Receptus based bibles.

The Anointed New Testament by Herrell also omits it and discusses why in Appendix 4 pages 571-574. It is to long to quote but some of the important points are that the Vaticanus, Sinaitus and 25 pre-fifth Century fragmentary texts omit these verses which he does cite. He also said there are dozens texts that omit it. Phillip Comforts book confirms most of these references. So the evidence is overwhelming.

You also said:

Then we have Van Herrell, another exposed cop that was serving ZOG all along, with his A.S.T. (garbage).

I have personal researched and studied Herrell AST and found it follows the Greek very well. It is one of the few NT texts that correctly translate racial words in the Bible which have had their definitions changed by later Judeo Christian Lexicons of the 19th and 20th Century. Don’t take my work for, check it out. The Internet Archive contains all the lexicons you need for free and a large number of the references he used, something that Herrell didn’t have available. He had to visit libraries nationwide to check this out.

Also could you direct Forum members to what evidence that shows that
". . . Van Herrell, another exposed cop that was serving ZOG all along. . . " I know that I am not the only one on this Forum own owns a AST and would like to see this evidence.

Last of all you stated:
“For example the plagiarized CNT . . ” I am not a member of the Mr.Finck fan club but would you please cite the evidence that the CNT is plagiarized?

Crossman

frey#89
01-14-2016, 02:06 PM
In my opinion of the no Satan doctrine. Disparate people say and expound on disparate things. As I learned to live in life; my opinion is shaped. Put out effort ,,,to get results.
My clear answer is doctrine needs to be general and acceptable.

PHILnBOAZ
02-26-2016, 09:59 PM
I would just like to say to all the folk out there that it has been a real pleasure to be here at this ministry. I have been at others that I will refrain from mentioning by name that was just to satisfy the so called pastors ego. I thoroughly enjoy the exchanges we have going on here. I despise the back-biting that goes on at other "ministries". Yah Keep and Bless you all!

frey#89
03-01-2016, 10:55 PM
Glad to have the freedom to read your thread.

Pastor Visser
03-05-2016, 09:03 AM
Thanks, Phil - we're glad to have your input!

PHILnBOAZ
03-07-2016, 02:06 PM
I think we should all give each other, and Pastor Visser, thanks for the wonderful ministry we have going on here. I have belonged to other ministries, which will go unnamed, which were merely fan clubs of the person sponsoring it. Here we are allowed to express ourselves and our beliefs and share w/o being subjected to a very false and dangerous interpretation of our beloved Bible. I only wish we could all gather in one place. Pray for Crossman. He is in a lot of pain. Yah Bless and Keep You All !

Carter
03-08-2016, 12:16 AM
I will and I agree, Phil.

PHILnBOAZ
03-19-2016, 04:36 AM
This raises a valid question. How do we Identists deal with those that are obviously retarded to everyone but themselves? In this I mean the stutterers and grunters like Marty and Bill that think they're smart because they're cracked and don't know any better?

Is it best just to avoid or risk looking slanderous like them in being watchmen and pointing out their lunacy? I know Bill has zero creditability in CI so how much of a threat is he to us really?

Well said and now he is just a long forgotten thought. I will give his 'yes man' credit for giving me the best advise I'd ever gotten from them. "If you don't like it here go to CPM". Thanks so much. It's a pleasure to be part of this ministry. I have found acceptance and peace of mind @ CPM.

ArchType
03-18-2017, 11:31 AM
It's a pleasure to be part of this ministry. I have found acceptance and peace of mind @ CPM.


:adoration: :loyal: :onthego:

:applouse: :rolleyes++:

seedliner
03-23-2017, 09:22 PM
@christogenea you will see my name giving praise to the people that run that site. They have now taken my real name which I never posted by or with there and used it as they see fit. I no longer endorse them or their (his) Wm.-ology. My experiences there were pleasant to begin with. It doesn't take anyone, but someone brand new to the DSCI message, to realize that it is nothing but a fan club. While there I NEVER heard him say anything decent about any other pastor. Even the ones he provides sites for. There is a particular CI pastor who writes much commentary and his work speaks to me. I like his writing style and skills. They sent me numerous emails back-biting and praising themselves because, like Paul of Tarsus, they gave away. I don't know what their real mission is. Money, I suspect. So to all those who pass by there, just dare to speak your own mind or point out their flawed doctrines. They will accept any and all as long as you sing their praises. Do not be fooled! They have no doctrinal statement because there is no doctrine. You can believe in a literal Satan or not. You can believe in literal angels or not. Of course their most telling statement of faith is "If the KJV isn't good enough" just write your own N.T. What Blasphemy! So when you see my name there, it isn't necessarily what I've ever posted. If you ain't in the fan club and don't agree w/ everything they have too say...Beware. There really are tares amongst the wheat.

Indeed.

Lazarus come forth
03-24-2017, 03:49 AM
Im new to ci. I became and christian but could never understand why i didnt fit in with judeo, i always felt alone. Anyway its good to finally somewhat not be alone. I got into the older christogenea stuff at first also mixed with cpm. It took me a bit to figure out the whole situation but i think i made the right choice with you guys. Anyway i dont understand forum stuff very much yet but glad to be here

ArchType
03-24-2017, 05:09 AM
Im new to ci. I became and christian but could never understand why i didnt fit in with judeo, i always felt alone. Anyway its good to finally somewhat not be alone. I got into the older christogenea stuff at first also mixed with cpm. It took me a bit to figure out the whole situation but i think i made the right choice with you guys. Anyway i dont understand forum stuff very much yet but glad to be here


Welcome, LCF. Glad you're here. You pretty much already figured out the forum stuff by making your post. No worries.

seedliner
03-24-2017, 07:35 AM
Welcome LCF! Hope all is well for you down under.

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