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05-18-2010, 07:39 PM
I found this interesting article, in the wayback machine...

A Journey in Sirach
By Joshua Caleb Sutter

The Church of the Sons of YHVH

Greetings to all brothers and sisters bonded together in Christ Jesus by the blood that was spilled upon the grave of Awdawm (Awdawm in Hebrew means “to show blood in the face, to turn red or ruddy when angry”) at the place of the skull (Golgotha), which conquered hell and death and blessed us with the spiritual regeneration by the grace of Yahshua Messiah (ie: Jesus Christ in anglicized language).

Yahshua Messiah promised his disciples who were on the earth at the time of his last appearance (YHVH appearing in a flesh body, born to the virgin Miriam in a cave outside of Bethlehem while Miriam was in the care of her uncle, Joseph, who was a priest at the temple) that His people, the Lost Sheep of the House of Jacob-Israel, would receive this spiritual regeneration and salvation promised in the crucifixion.

The blood of Jesus Christ that was spilled at Golgotha has been since the time of that magnificent occurrence and shall remain for evermore, a bonding covenant only between YHVH (who is referred to as ‘The LORD’ in your King James Version bibles) and the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel. Those Lost Sheep who, as according to prophecy, lost their name and knowledge of their heritage during their migrations northwards into Western Europe.

During the time of Yahshua there was and had been for many, many years, active trade between the land of Palestine and the tin mines in Cornwall, England. The apostle Paul spoke to the “Lost Sheep scattered abroad”… who were present in the Roman Empire, Italy, England and other places. These are those who are known as the nations (races) of Western Europe today.

In the final sacrifice of atonement where spiritual oneness between YHVH and His people was established, Yahshua’s blood poured down from the wounds that were inflicted when he was nailed to that torture stake by the jews (who are proven again and again in scripture by the words which came from out of the mouth of Our Saviour Jesus Christ to be devils and literal Anti-Christs). That blood poured down onto the ground at Golgotha, which is a mound also called ‘the place of the Skull’ because it was the resting place of the skull of the original Awdawm.

Awdawm and Eva in the Garden of Eden (which was located near the Tarim Basin) were the father and mother of only one people. Yes, they are the original couple whose descendant grandson Jacob became the father of that “one nation and only nation that I have known…” that is spoken of by YHVH. That nation is of course Israel (literal translations: Isra’El – Sons Ruling with God/Elohim) who are the white race and are the only race who fulfills all the promises, covenants and prophecies attributed to Israelites in the books of the old and new parchments (ie: testaments).

Through Yahshua Messiah’s grace upon the White Race, we have been allowed to live in this very volatile and crucial time in the development of God’s Chosen People and the unfolding of their destiny and the destiny of the world itself and all who inhabit it during these Latter-Day Times. Through the grace of Yahshua Messiah’s sacrifice for all who are descended from Adam (Adamites: the white racial peoples of this earth) those who are Adamites but not of that one family (Jacob-Israel) can be grafted into the Family of God. Such an event works through a process of spiritual and psycho-physical metamorphosis wrought only by the grace of YHVH-Yahshua who has known those who will choose the strait and narrow path since before the foundations of the earth.

We know that the black, yellow and brown peoples inhabiting the earth are pre-Adamites. Such people are NOT made in the image of God and are outside any promise contained within the crucifixion of Christ.

Although especially concerning the Negro there are, of course, differing planetary areas of origin concerning the pre-Adamites, the most important thing to realize is that they were on earth long before the appearance of Awdawm and Eva, the first white man and woman created.

Adam and those descended from His family are the only pure race formed ‘in the image of YHVH-Elohim’ (KJV “Lord God”). Adamites are the only race possessing a triumvirate of spirit, soul and body as the pre-Adamites (including orientals, Africans, the so-called indigenous North Americans, mestizos, etc.) do NOT possess a soul. In learning that these people are inherently different from your race (the white race) in every aspect, it becomes a boon in dealing with them as you realize that they must be put in their proper perspective.

The Negro especially was created as a “worker, labourer” who was meant to be under the dominion of and in servitude to members and institutions of the white race. Especially useful for farm labor, those who are known as blacks today are referred to by our ancient Hebrew language as “Khaw-Yaw” which literally means BEAST or ‘Beast of the field’. These terms are both literal references to their actual mental and physical consistency (ie: the beast) and to their places of work (ie: the field) where they performed their labor for the benefit of YHVH’s White racial people.

We now realize that we are in the End-Times as spoken of in the inspired scriptures and that, indeed, all are being coerced and begged that they should enter themselves and with their families into that unholy sanctum where one takes on the “image of the Beast”.

There is nothing more apparent in the knowledge of the first and second Beast recorded in the writings of Paul the Revelator during his imprisonment on Patmos than what is taking place today. Yes brothers and sisters it is true that in the End-Times all that they (the system) will tell you is right will be wrong, and all that they tell you will be wrong will be right.

These are the beginning times of “Jacob’s Troubles”, when the head (Israelite White Western Europeans) will become the tail and the tail (the assorted barbaric races of the Enosh people) will become the head. The Beast and His false prophets shall rear their ugly abominations and media campaigns (all the lying wonders of the Jews who are Cainites, the descendants of Satan himself) and all living outside of God shall be made “into His image” (the image of the Beast).

Examine very carefully what it means for something, anything to be “formed in the image” according to someone’s particular desire. This means that in the End-Times when Mystery Babylon is rising in power (and this is true now because Mystery Babylon is the false religious doctrines of Judeo-Christianity and the satanic practice of overall mind control of the masses) what we will see on the streets and promoted in the media will be that which is wrought “in the image of the Beast”. Life imitates art and decrepit and degenerate lifestyles begin to emerge from the collective Jewish brainstorming going on in Los Angeles and other horrid dens of vipers, the serpent Jews.

All things today are being formed according to the specifications of the “image” that the Beast (the JEW) has wrought. Furthermore now we see the “cultural event” of white boys and girls acting like niggers (blacks who are the “Khaw-Yaw” – BEASTS IN HEBREW LANGUAGE), taking on the image of the black beast, in a new and more profound light afforded by YHVH’s holy scriptures. We are in the time period of THE MARK OF THE BEAST as spoken of in the Book of Revelations.

Now you may ask, what amongst these chastisements is the blessing then? Where amongst Jacob-Israel’s punishments are we receiving blessing?

For one brothers and sisters, we must realize that it is a blessing in itself to be the recipient of the Rod of Correction by YHVH. YHVH only chastises those who He loves and who are His sons and daughters. Those who do not receive the chastisement of the White Racial Father (YHVH) prove that they are bastards and are not made in the image of the Most High God of Heaven and Earth.

“Like music in time of mourning is ill-timed conversation, but a thrashing and discipline are at all times wisdom.” – Sirach 22: 6

Just as spoken of in the Psalms that indeed, “thy rod and thy staff shall comfort me” we realize that we are indeed as aware White Western Europeans are the actual physical and spiritual sons and daughters of the Most High YHVH God, only our DNA and RNA structure is similar to YHVH. We are in the stage of being tested in the fire that is kindled by YHVH Our Father, designed for our training and ultimate benefit.

We live in a very special time period that YHVH has put us here for, all according to His very perfect and specific plan. For these are the End-Times when YHVH’s disciplining of His children shall be harshest because we ARE as His End-Time Elect, His living, breathing biological unfolding truth. His disciplined warriors who through their works of ministering and all good works (including wreaking retribution to the enemies of YHVH-Yahshua) who shall bring in the proper atmosphere for the coming of YHVH in a flesh body again on this earth – the return of the Supreme Personality of Godhead himself (YHVH – the Roaring Lion of Judah). And, through the establishment of His thousand year reign on earth, the beginning of the trek of YHVH’s people back to Godhead….

YHVH tells us that in these End-Times, all that had henceforth been hidden shall be revealed. This means the literal unfolding of what is properly termed the occult (which means only “hidden knowledge”). The period of enlightenment, when innermost secrets of YHVH and His power (including the creation of the vast limitless universes) will come to be absolved into the minds of His Elect.

As students of the Word of God Almighty we must take into consideration to look into the fullness of the scripture that is available to us. Eschewing, therefore, the odious contemplations of Zionist Cainite institutions of “non-learning” such as the World Consulate of Churches, Southern Baptist Convention, ad naseum.

There is much that has written recording the history and the religion (ie: our relationship with Our Father, YHVH God) of the white race that has been lost, hidden in obscurity. These are the things that are gradually, slowly but surely coming into the light of our people’s knowledge. His (YHVH’s) Ekklesia (which is the Church, the ‘called out ones’) through the modern day arms of the ministry including the pastors, teachers, prophets, ministers, healers, evangelists, etc. are taking hold of this knowledge that has been obscured and are presenting it forthright before the people of Jacob-Israel (Our great white race).

Much is still lost, for example: ‘the Book of the Wars of YHVH’ (KJV ‘Lord God’) which without a doubt would further explicate the nomination of Jacob-Israel as YHVH’s literal battle-axes and weapons of war (see Jeremiah 51), Levitical-appointed extermination squads (see Ezekiel 9) and other extremely interesting subjects that are explored in the old testament.

We see clear examples of Anglo-Saxon wisdom contained within verses such as these taken from the book “The Wisdom of Sirach” in the Apocrypha:

“Do not talk much with a senseless person or visit and unintelligent person. Stay clear of him, or you may have trouble, and be spattered when he shakes himself. Avoid him and you will find rest, and you will never be wearied by his lack of sense. What is heavier than lead? And what is its name except ‘Fool’? Sand, salt and a piece of iron are easier to bear than a stupid person.” Sirach 22:13-15

Does not the above verse reiterate real life events in your own traversing journey on this earth planet? So much for the “send me your weak and wretched refuse” philosophy ascribed on the archaic and Jewish-Satanic weltaschuung of New York City jewry.

More and more proofs are pointing to the fact that yes, indeed – much has been hidden from YHVH’s Elect people (the White racial kinsman and women of this earth today).

“Like music in time of mourning is ill-timed conversation, but a thrashing and discipline are at all times wisdom.” – Sirach 22: 6

Is not the sickle of YHVH’s vengeance upon this earth being felt? Are not the bombs begining to blast all the hotter in that degenerate dwelling place of every foul demon and thing, the rogue state of ‘Israeli’? Father All-Consuming YHVH is in control of every aspect of the events that are unfolding in the world today. We are to wait (not in the term of ‘waiting around’ but rather to wait as a waiter upon God) upon omnipresent, transcendent YHVH God for our unfolding destiny on this earth is strictly for His pleasure.

“The vapour and smoke of the furnace precede the fire, so insults precede bloodshed.” Sirach 22:24

Is this not a sign that the dam is going to break soon in America?

“Fences set on a high place will not stand firm against the wind: so a timid mind with a fool’s resolve will not stand firm against any fear.” Sirach 22:18

The time is arriving in which YHVH’s Rod of Correction is ever-present in the minds, hearts and bodies of all the collective white racial nations of Israel. Fears, famines, wars, bloodshed, natural disaster, pole shifts will begin the woes along with rumors of such… A vast majority of those who are living, breathing, white people on the face of this earth today will be rendered by YHVH and his conquering angels (“For YHVH is a consuming fire…”) as useless ash, cast into the pit of limitless nameless horrors.


“How great is one who finds wisdom! But none is superior to one who fears YHVH. Fear of YHVH surpasses everything, to whom can we compare one who has it?” Sirach 25:10-11

Truth everlasting we see, pouring forth from the ancient manuscripts of the Apocrypha here now in the book of the Wisdom of Sirach. The Fear of YHVH is the beginning of all knowledge. And YHVH promises us that in these end times there shall be not anything hidden that shall not be revealed.

“Have mercy upon us, O Elohim of all. And put the nations in fear of you. Lift up your hand against foreign nations and let them see your might. As you have used us to show your holiness to them, so use them to show your glory to us. Then they will know, as we have known, that there is no Elohim but you, O YHVH. Give new signs, and work other wonders; make your hand and right arm glorious. Rouse your anger and pour out your wrath; and may those who harm your people meet destruction. Crush the heads of hostile rulers who say, ‘There is no one but ourselves’. Gather all the tribes of Jacob, and give them their inheritance, as at the beginning. Have mercy, O YHVH, on the people called by your name, on Israel, who have you named your firstborn. Have pity on the city of your sanctuary, Jerusalem, the place of your dwelling. Fill Zion with your majesty, and your temple with your glory. Bear witness to those whom you created in the beginning, and fulfill the prophecies spoken in your name. Reward those who wait for you and let your prophets be found trustworthy. Hear, O YHVH, the prayer of your servants, according to your goodwill towards your people, and all who are on the earth will know that you are YHVH, the Elohim of the ages.” Sirach 36:1-22

We are just skimming the surface of the astounding truth contained within the scriptures which are books written to, for and about only one race – the White Race (True Israel). Imagine the counteraction to modern Judaic-democratic enervation that takes place when only the simplest truth is understood.

For instance the truth that “it was not the apple in the tree, but the pair on the ground” which caused trouble in the Garden of Eden.

The “serpent” as translated by your American bibles were translated correctly from the Hebrew we understand that Hebrew ‘NACHASH’ means an enchanter, a sorcerer. The story of that original “snake” becomes more interesting. And in the Garden of Light was that first evil seed sown, from the devil himself…

The first EVA partook of the “fruit” offered by the nachash (sorcerer) which involved sexual liaison between Satan (‘the sorcerer’) and Eva. Likewise after witnessing this act, the first AWDAWM also partook of the “fruit” as the sorcerer took the form of Lilith.

Cain and Abel were twins, born by the same mother but of different fathers and brought into the world at different times. We can compare this to the very beginning of the story of the field in which the wheat was sown… the birth of Cain was the first appearance of the tare on the earthly third dimension.

And to know that as polar opposite creatures – Light Verses Darkness – a Child of YHVH-Elohiym by genetic birth possesses a COMPLETELY different RNA and DNA strand, having a completely different biological existence apart from all Children of Devils and all of the colored ‘Enosh’ people.

Through the holy sound vibration of Our Father’s personal name YHVH (pronounced “Yah-Way”) we speak the exclusive sound vibration which belongs to Our Race, which is sent up into the ethers and there reverberates forever.

We are skimming the surface. There is a revival and a spiritual revolution going on and it is the sweetest part of the fruit. It is the IDENTITY MESSAGE of YHVH’s Truth for His White Racial people who are the true Hebrews and Israelites of Old.

A great king in Israel, David, admonished us in the Proverbs when he told us:

“To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;

To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.” – Proverbs 1:2-6

It is the duty of the Sons of YHVH to constantly learn, learn and learn. Two-Seedline Identity is confirmed, pure racial truth and expands in limitless directions. Within it’s doctrine and history reverberates in grim procession out from the misty past, dark secrets of a genetic white racial resurgence.

In the repetition of the Law (Hebrew: ‘deuteronomy’) and heart-felt, fervent prayer In the name of YHVH speaking His name unto the heavens that genetic seal is unlocked within those who are white men or women.

Once this process has taken place you are in the place that the following scripture refers to you personally: ‘He who is in me is greater, than he who is in the world’.

We continue on in Chapter 1 of the book of Proverbs, going along now verse by verse:

7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Remember that YHVH told us in the Book of Sirach that we should avoid association with any foolish persons?

8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.

Praise YHVH and consider this verse as well as it’s obvious meaning, you should consider it also in reference to, as a white racial man or woman, thy father (AWDAWM) and thy mother (EVA). Two personages who are ONLY father and mother to one racial stock (white, blushing Europeans).

20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,

22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

Dictator of All, YHVH Yod-He-Vau-He, now proclaims that in the totalitarian Kingdom He establishes for His people that it shall be a society of PRO-LEARNING, PRO-STUDENT and ANTI-democratic poison of monotone, beastly repetition and mind-control living as is now common in the Communist States of America.

23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

This brothers and sisters, is happening today! And it is powerful!

24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;

25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;

27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:

30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.

31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

From Proverbs Chapter 1….

Is not Our Father YHVH forthright and extremely militant in his meting out punishment upon the wicked who have defied their heritage of genetic God seed in DNA and RNA structure? Shall we all pray fervently and strive towards that blessed day when the signs will not read “Drink Coke” or “Abortion services provided”… but rather in their stead and in crushing defiance of the soon-dead jew-boys, massive cyclopean messages reading “choose the fear of YHVH”?

Imagine just for an instant the majesty, stateliness and overall orderly and mechanical, technical and atmospheric act of genius it would seem to our humbled, enslaved persons living here under bondage today in the Beast 666 System if we were to see the works of state and society and folk that would flourish under an ALL WHITE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT GOVERNED BY A CELESTIAL FATHER YHVH AND VOID OF THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH!

YHVH is immediate and blasting in His condemnation of all those that would choose the snare rather than the sugar, who would walk the wicked path of inter-racial mongrelization and sniveling obeisance to the jew (the BEAST). Yes, it is a totalitarian and very strict community of believers that will be coming forth as His Church (EKKLESIA – THE CALLED OUT ONES) in these time’s of Jacob’s Trouble.

Remember that any insistency on the part of alleged servants of Christ that is contrary to the truth that Yahshua Messiah Jesus Christ is God, is YHVH Himself, in the flesh and born of Judah/German blood (thus a “son of Elohiym” a Son of the God-Race) proves them to be NOT OF GOD and as a matter of fact, it proves them to be ANTI-CHRISTS (please read in reference the book of Second Peter in your Holy Bibles).

The so-called Judeo-Christian churches which are in fact nothing more than Baal boxes themselves are in open defiance to the written word containing the laws, statutes, ordinances, commandments and judgments of YHVH Almighty. A few examples for instance: women are not to speak from the pulpit, God commands that if men wear any type of hat or head covering He (God) will refuse to hear their prayers, God commands that “ye shall call no other ‘father’ except me”, God tells us that homosexuality is an abomination, God tells us that murdering babies through abortion (see ‘The Ten Commandments’) is an abominable and wretched sin…

Just reading the bible on one’s own will shatter so many illusions that have been put forth by the Judeo-Christians that you will soon learn that the majority of the churches are not following the bible at all.

By looking into the actual meanings of the words as they are in the original Hebrew texts we begin to discern and truly learn what is written to us in the scriptures. Student activities involving the old and new parchment texts become complete and are indeed ‘revealed scriptures’ when they are read in light of the Identity truth by referring to the original meanings of the words as explicated by your Strong’s Concordances.

Join us within the Church of the Sons of YHVH and become a student of the Word. Begin a walk upon the strait and rocky road of YHVH which leads to full realization of Sonship in His righteous Kingdom!

“Clouds and darkness are round about Him: righteousness and judgment are the habitations of His throne” PS 97:2

“Righteous art thou, O YHVH, and upright are thy judgments” PS 119:137

“His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me,

FEAR NOT; I Am the first and the last:

I Am He that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I Am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter… - YAHSHUA MESSIAH

05-18-2010, 07:52 PM
Man that's an important article, somebody should blog this.

05-18-2010, 07:54 PM
Man that's an important article, somebody should blog this.

blog this??

06-26-2010, 05:41 PM
Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Old Testament Apocrapha, New Testament Apocrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi (Gnostic)...etc

http://www.zyworld.com/answersquestions/index.htm - ANCIENT WRITINGS

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/index.htm - Sacred Text Archive

06-27-2010, 03:11 AM
I own some extra-biblical writings and books but, for me anyway, I don't consider them on a par with the Bible. If I was headed for a deserted island and could only take one book with me it would be the Bible. I believe that the Bible has everything I need to know my place in God's (YHWH's) plan and I believe that it contains all I need to know to find salvation in Jesus Christ.

Old Testament Pseudepigrapha, Old Testament Apocrapha, New Testament Apocrapha, Dead Sea Scrolls, Nag Hammadi (Gnostic)...etc

http://www.zyworld.com/answersquestions/index.htm - ANCIENT WRITINGS

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/index.htm - Sacred Text Archive

06-27-2010, 06:10 PM
I own some extra-biblical writings and books but, for me anyway, I don't consider them on a par with the Bible. If I was headed for a deserted island and could only take one book with me it would be the Bible. I believe that the Bible has everything I need to know my place in God's (YHWH's) plan and I believe that it contains all I need to know to find salvation in Jesus Christ.

The Non-Canonical books and the Gnostic gospels,Dead Sea Scrolls,Nag Hammadi Library and Christian Apocrypha, Apocrypha are they books that we should study????
They are interesting...

Obadiah 1:18
06-28-2010, 08:38 AM
This English translation of the new and thoroughly revised sixth German edition of the extensive extra-canonical gospel literature is an absolutely indispensable collection of sources for every student of the New Testament and of the history and literature of ancient Christianity. The important newly discovered gospels from the Nag Hammadi library, only reported in a preliminary summary fashion in the previous editions, are now presented in their complete texts with excellent introductions.

DOWNLOAD (http://hotfile.com/dl/31146725/78b29c4/066422721X.rar.html)

Camp of Israel
06-28-2010, 12:56 PM
Ive read most of the book of enoch and started reading the apocrypha (King James Version) I agree with saxon jackson I think the Bible is all we need. The 6th Article of religion of the Church of England (according to the BCP) states:

And the other books (as Hierome saith) the Church doth read for example of life and instruction of manners; but yet doth it not apply to establish any doctrine: such are the following ( list apochryphal books).

06-28-2010, 06:23 PM
Dr Swift refers to non-canonical books - I think they are an interesting study..
Why do we study and read the book of Enoch??

Why did the men who put the books in the Bible pick those books?? - I think we should look at the other non-Canonical books also,Just because they are not in the Bible does not mean that they do not have some interesting study/read...

Why did the men who put the books in our current KJV Bible and other Bibles think that the ''other writings'' should not go in the Bible as Biblical canon?

Obadiah 1:18
07-11-2010, 05:51 AM
Outstanding lecture by Capt on the validity of the Apocrypha.


CORRECTION: Capt introduces the lecture, which is most likely a reading of an article he's written, but doesn't give it.

Obadiah 1:18
07-12-2010, 06:26 PM
You can get more talks like the above here (http://archives.sfawbn.com/bant/).

Obadiah 1:18
08-13-2010, 02:33 AM

CLICK TO DOWNLOAD (http://freakshare.net/files/tzmnpis2/The-forgotten-Book-of-Eden.rar.html)

08-13-2010, 05:58 PM

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/lbob/index.htm - The Lost Books of the Bible
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/index.htm - The Forgotten Books of Eden

08-13-2010, 06:24 PM
Great reading! Suggested.

12-05-2010, 10:45 PM

Testament of Dan is a Voice Of Christian Israel (http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/22187) broadcast that begins with Pastor Visser explaining several recent events concerning the supposed "downfall" of Covenant People's Church and his recent court "victory." The latter part of this show features Pastors Eli James and Greg Howard covering the entire 'Testament of Dan' from the Forgotten Books of Eden and the Lost Books of the Bible (http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/showthread.php?1833).


:winamp: (mp3 / 18.0 mb)

12-06-2010, 03:21 PM

Testament of Dan is a Voice Of Christian Israel (http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/22187) broadcast that begins with Pastor Visser explaining several recent events concerning the supposed "downfall" of Covenant People's Church and his recent court "victory." The latter part of this show features Pastors Eli James and Greg Howard covering the entire 'Testament of Dan' from the Forgotten Books of Eden and the Lost Books of the Bible (http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/forum/showthread.php?1833).


:winamp: (mp3 / 18.0 mb)

These are my two favorite quotes from the Testament of Dan (http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe285.htm);

"Dan prophesied unto them that they should forget their God, and should be alienated from the land of their inheritance and from the race of Israel, and from the family of their seed." (2:27)

Like all scripture, we see this applies to one "race" only.

"A twofold mischief is wrath with lying; and they assist one another in order to disturb the heart; and when the soul is continually disturbed, the Lord departeth from it, and Beliar ruleth over it." (1:27)

"Wrath with lying" leads to Yahweh's rebuke and Satan's lead.

12-25-2010, 01:38 AM
These are great, even though mainstream fools say they are spurious books of the bible..

12-25-2010, 10:52 AM
The Gospel of Thomas

These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke and Didymos Judas Thomas recorded.

1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not taste death."

2. Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."

4. Jesus said, "The person old in days won't hesitate to ask a little child seven days old about the place of life, and that person will live.

For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."

5. Jesus said, "Know what is in front of your face, and what is hidden from you will be disclosed to you.

For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. [And there is nothing buried that will not be raised.]"

6. His disciples asked him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?"

Jesus said, "Don't lie, and don't do what you hate, because all things are disclosed before heaven. After all, there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed, and there is nothing covered up that will remain undisclosed."

7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."

8. And he said, "The person is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of little fish. Among them the wise fisherman discovered a fine large fish. He threw all the little fish back into the sea, and easily chose the large fish. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

9. Jesus said, "Look, the sower went out, took a handful (of seeds), and scattered (them). Some fell on the road, and the birds came and gathered them. Others fell on rock, and they didn't take root in the soil and didn't produce heads of grain. Others fell on thorns, and they choked the seeds and worms ate them. And others fell on good soil, and it produced a good crop: it yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure."

10. Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."

11. Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away.

The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. During the days when you ate what is dead, you made it come alive. When you are in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one, you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"

12. The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"

Jesus said to them, "No matter where you are you are to go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being."

13. Jesus said to his disciples, "Compare me to something and tell me what I am like."

Simon Peter said to him, "You are like a just messenger."

Matthew said to him, "You are like a wise philosopher."

Thomas said to him, "Teacher, my mouth is utterly unable to say what you are like."

Jesus said, "I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended."

And he took him, and withdrew, and spoke three sayings to him. When Thomas came back to his friends they asked him, "What did Jesus say to you?"

Thomas said to them, "If I tell you one of the sayings he spoke to me, you will pick up rocks and stone me, and fire will come from the rocks and devour you."

14. Jesus said to them, "If you fast, you will bring sin upon yourselves, and if you pray, you will be condemned, and if you give to charity, you will harm your spirits.

When you go into any region and walk about in the countryside, when people take you in, eat what they serve you and heal the sick among them.

After all, what goes into your mouth will not defile you; rather, it's what comes out of your mouth that will defile you."

15. Jesus said, "When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father."

16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war.

For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

17. Jesus said, "I will give you what no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, what no hand has touched, what has not arisen in the human heart."

18. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us, how will our end come?"

Jesus said, "Have you found the beginning, then, that you are looking for the end? You see, the end will be where the beginning is.

Congratulations to the one who stands at the beginning: that one will know the end and will not taste death."

19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being before coming into being.

If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings, these stones will serve you.

For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever knows them will not taste death."

20. The disciples said to Jesus, "Tell us what Heaven's kingdom is like."

He said to them, "It's like a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds, but when it falls on prepared soil, it produces a large plant and becomes a shelter for birds of the sky."

21. Mary said to Jesus, "What are your disciples like?"

He said, "They are like little children living in a field that is not theirs. When the owners of the field come, they will say, 'Give us back our field.' They take off their clothes in front of them in order to give it back to them, and they return their field to them.

For this reason I say, if the owners of a house know that a thief is coming, they will be on guard before the thief arrives and will not let the thief break into their house (their domain) and steal their possessions.

As for you, then, be on guard against the world. Prepare yourselves with great strength, so the robbers can't find a way to get to you, for the trouble you expect will come.

Let there be among you a person who understands.

When the crop ripened, he came quickly carrying a sickle and harvested it. Anyone here with two good ears had better listen!"

22. Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."

23. Jesus said, "I shall choose you, one from a thousand and two from ten thousand, and they will stand as a single one."

24. His disciples said, "Show us the place where you are, for we must seek it."

He said to them, "Anyone here with two ears had better listen! There is light within a person of light, and it shines on the whole world. If it does not shine, it is dark."

25. Jesus said, "Love your friends like your own soul, protect them like the pupil of your eye."

26. Jesus said, "You see the sliver in your friend's eye, but you don't see the timber in your own eye. When you take the timber out of your own eye, then you will see well enough to remove the sliver from your friend's eye."

27. "If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) kingdom. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father."

28. Jesus said, "I took my stand in the midst of the world, and in flesh I appeared to them. I found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. My soul ached for the children of humanity, because they are blind in their hearts and do not see, for they came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty.

But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways."

29. Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels.

Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty."

30. Jesus said, "Where there are three deities, they are divine. Where there are two or one, I am with that one."

31. Jesus said, "No prophet is welcome on his home turf; doctors don't cure those who know them."

32. Jesus said, "A city built on a high hill and fortified cannot fall, nor can it be hidden."

33. Jesus said, "What you will hear in your ear, in the other ear proclaim from your rooftops.

After all, no one lights a lamp and puts it under a basket, nor does one put it in a hidden place. Rather, one puts it on a lampstand so that all who come and go will see its light."

34. Jesus said, "If a blind person leads a blind person, both of them will fall into a hole."

35. Jesus said, "One can't enter a strong person's house and take it by force without tying his hands. Then one can loot his house."

36. Jesus said, "Do not fret, from morning to evening and from evening to morning, [about your food--what you're going to eat, or about your clothing--] what you are going to wear. [You're much better than the lilies, which neither card nor spin.

As for you, when you have no garment, what will you put on? Who might add to your stature? That very one will give you your garment.]"

37. His disciples said, "When will you appear to us, and when will we see you?"

Jesus said, "When you strip without being ashamed, and you take your clothes and put them under your feet like little children and trample then, then [you] will see the son of the living one and you will not be afraid."

38. Jesus said, "Often you have desired to hear these sayings that I am speaking to you, and you have no one else from whom to hear them. There will be days when you will seek me and you will not find me."

39. Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so.

As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."

40. Jesus said, "A grapevine has been planted apart from the Father. Since it is not strong, it will be pulled up by its root and will perish."

41. Jesus said, "Whoever has something in hand will be given more, and whoever has nothing will be deprived of even the little they have."

42. Jesus said, "Be passersby."

43. His disciples said to him, "Who are you to say these things to us?"

"You don't understand who I am from what I say to you.

Rather, you have become like the Judeans, for they love the tree but hate its fruit, or they love the fruit but hate the tree."

44. Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven."

45. Jesus said, "Grapes are not harvested from thorn trees, nor are figs gathered from thistles, for they yield no fruit.

Good persons produce good from what they've stored up; bad persons produce evil from the wickedness they've stored up in their hearts, and say evil things. For from the overflow of the heart they produce evil."

46. Jesus said, "From Adam to John the Baptist, among those born of women, no one is so much greater than John the Baptist that his eyes should not be averted.

But I have said that whoever among you becomes a child will recognize the (Father's) kingdom and will become greater than John."

47. Jesus said, "A person cannot mount two horses or bend two bows.

And a slave cannot serve two masters, otherwise that slave will honor the one and offend the other.

Nobody drinks aged wine and immediately wants to drink young wine. Young wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into a new wineskin, or it might spoil.

An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, since it would create a tear."

48. Jesus said, "If two make peace with each other in a single house, they will say to the mountain, 'Move from here!' and it will move."

49. Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."

50. Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where have you come from?' say to them, 'We have come from the light, from the place where the light came into being by itself, established [itself], and appeared in their image.'

If they say to you, 'Is it you?' say, 'We are its children, and we are the chosen of the living Father.'

If they ask you, 'What is the evidence of your Father in you?' say to them, 'It is motion and rest.'"

51. His disciples said to him, "When will the rest for the dead take place, and when will the new world come?"

He said to them, "What you are looking forward to has come, but you don't know it."

52. His disciples said to him, "Twenty-four prophets have spoken in Israel, and they all spoke of you."

He said to them, "You have disregarded the living one who is in your presence, and have spoken of the dead."

53. His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision useful or not?"

He said to them, "If it were useful, their father would produce children already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become profitable in every respect."

54. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the poor, for to you belongs Heaven's kingdom."

55. Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate father and mother cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not hate brothers and sisters, and carry the cross as I do, will not be worthy of me."

56. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

57 Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a person who has [good] seed. His enemy came during the night and sowed weeds among the good seed. The person did not let the workers pull up the weeds, but said to them, 'No, otherwise you might go to pull up the weeds and pull up the wheat along with them.' For on the day of the harvest the weeds will be conspicuous, and will be pulled up and burned."

58. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the person who has toiled and has found life."

59. Jesus said, "Look to the living one as long as you live, otherwise you might die and then try to see the living one, and you will be unable to see."

60. He saw a Samaritan carrying a lamb and going to Judea. He said to his disciples, "that person ... around the lamb." They said to him, "So that he may kill it and eat it." He said to them, "He will not eat it while it is alive, but only after he has killed it and it has become a carcass."

They said, "Otherwise he can't do it."

He said to them, "So also with you, seek for yourselves a place for rest, or you might become a carcass and be eaten."

61. Jesus said, "Two will recline on a couch; one will die, one will live."

Salome said, "Who are you mister? You have climbed onto my couch and eaten from my table as if you are from someone."

Jesus said to her, "I am the one who comes from what is whole. I was granted from the things of my Father."

"I am your disciple."

"For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness."

62. Jesus said, "I disclose my mysteries to those [who are worthy] of [my] mysteries.

63 Jesus said, "There was a rich person who had a great deal of money. He said, 'I shall invest my money so that I may sow, reap, plant, and fill my storehouses with produce, that I may lack nothing.' These were the things he was thinking in his heart, but that very night he died. Anyone here with two ears had better listen!"

64. Jesus said, "A person was receiving guests. When he had prepared the dinner, he sent his slave to invite the guests.

The slave went to the first and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said, 'Some merchants owe me money; they are coming to me tonight. I have to go and give them instructions. Please excuse me from dinner.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master has invited you.' That one said to the slave, 'I have bought a house, and I have been called away for a day. I shall have no time.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said to the slave, 'My friend is to be married, and I am to arrange the banquet. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me from dinner.'

The slave went to another and said to that one, 'My master invites you.' That one said to the slave, 'I have bought an estate, and I am going to collect the rent. I shall not be able to come. Please excuse me.'

The slave returned and said to his master, 'Those whom you invited to dinner have asked to be excused.' The master said to his slave, 'Go out on the streets and bring back whomever you find to have dinner.'

Buyers and merchants [will] not enter the places of my Father."

65. He said, "A [...] person owned a vineyard and rented it to some farmers, so they could work it and he could collect its crop from them. He sent his slave so the farmers would give him the vineyard's crop. They grabbed him, beat him, and almost killed him, and the slave returned and told his master. His master said, 'Perhaps he didn't know them.' He sent another slave, and the farmers beat that one as well. Then the master sent his son and said, 'Perhaps they'll show my son some respect.' Because the farmers knew that he was the heir to the vineyard, they grabbed him and killed him. Anyone here with two ears had better listen!"

66. Jesus said, "Show me the stone that the builders rejected: that is the keystone."

67. Jesus said, "Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."

68. Jesus said, "Congratulations to you when you are hated and persecuted; and no place will be found, wherever you have been persecuted."

69. Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who have been persecuted in their hearts: they are the ones who have truly come to know the Father.

Congratulations to those who go hungry, so the stomach of the one in want may be filled."

70. Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

71. Jesus said, "I will destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to build it [...]."

72. A [person said] to him, "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me."

He said to the person, "Mister, who made me a divider?"

He turned to his disciples and said to them, "I'm not a divider, am I?"

73. Jesus said, "The crop is huge but the workers are few, so beg the harvest boss to dispatch workers to the fields."

74. He said, "Lord, there are many around the drinking trough, but there is nothing in the well."

75. Jesus said, "There are many standing at the door, but those who are alone will enter the bridal suite."

76. Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a merchant who had a supply of merchandise and found a pearl. That merchant was prudent; he sold the merchandise and bought the single pearl for himself.

So also with you, seek his treasure that is unfailing, that is enduring, where no moth comes to eat and no worm destroys."

77. Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained.

Split a piece of wood; I am there.

Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."

78. Jesus said, "Why have you come out to the countryside? To see a reed shaken by the wind? And to see a person dressed in soft clothes, [like your] rulers and your powerful ones? They are dressed in soft clothes, and they cannot understand truth."

79. A woman in the crowd said to him, "Lucky are the womb that bore you and the breasts that fed you."

He said to [her], "Lucky are those who have heard the word of the Father and have truly kept it. For there will be days when you will say, 'Lucky are the womb that has not conceived and the breasts that have not given milk.'"

80. Jesus said, "Whoever has come to know the world has discovered the body, and whoever has discovered the body, of that one the world is not worthy."

81. Jesus said, "Let one who has become wealthy reign, and let one who has power renounce <it>."

82. Jesus said, "Whoever is near me is near the fire, and whoever is far from me is far from the (Father's) kingdom."

83. Jesus said, "Images are visible to people, but the light within them is hidden in the image of the Father's light. He will be disclosed, but his image is hidden by his light."

84. Jesus said, "When you see your likeness, you are happy. But when you see your images that came into being before you and that neither die nor become visible, how much you will have to bear!"

85. Jesus said, "Adam came from great power and great wealth, but he was not worthy of you. For had he been worthy, [he would] not [have tasted] death."

86. Jesus said, "[Foxes have] their dens and birds have their nests, but human beings have no place to lay down and rest."

87. Jesus said, "How miserable is the body that depends on a body, and how miserable is the soul that depends on these two."

88. Jesus said, "The messengers and the prophets will come to you and give you what belongs to you. You, in turn, give them what you have, and say to yourselves, 'When will they come and take what belongs to them?'"

89. Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Don't you understand that the one who made the inside is also the one who made the outside?"

90. Jesus said, "Come to me, for my yoke is comfortable and my lordship is gentle, and you will find rest for yourselves."

91. They said to him, "Tell us who you are so that we may believe in you."

He said to them, "You examine the face of heaven and earth, but you have not come to know the one who is in your presence, and you do not know how to examine the present moment."

92. Jesus said, "Seek and you will find.

In the past, however, I did not tell you the things about which you asked me then. Now I am willing to tell them, but you are not seeking them."

93. "Don't give what is holy to dogs, for they might throw them upon the manure pile. Don't throw pearls [to] pigs, or they might ... it [...]."

94. Jesus [said], "One who seeks will find, and for [one who knocks] it will be opened."

95. [Jesus said], "If you have money, don't lend it at interest. Rather, give [it] to someone from whom you won't get it back."

96. Jesus [said], "The Father's kingdom is like [a] woman. She took a little leaven, [hid] it in dough, and made it into large loaves of bread. Anyone here with two ears had better listen!"

97. Jesus said, "The [Father's] kingdom is like a woman who was carrying a [jar] full of meal. While she was walking along [a] distant road, the handle of the jar broke and the meal spilled behind her [along] the road. She didn't know it; she hadn't noticed a problem. When she reached her house, she put the jar down and discovered that it was empty."

98. Jesus said, "The Father's kingdom is like a person who wanted to kill someone powerful. While still at home he drew his sword and thrust it into the wall to find out whether his hand would go in. Then he killed the powerful one."

99. The disciples said to him, "Your brothers and your mother are standing outside."

He said to them, "Those here who do what my Father wants are my brothers and my mother. They are the ones who will enter my Father's kingdom."

100. They showed Jesus a gold coin and said to him, "The Roman emperor's people demand taxes from us."

He said to them, "Give the emperor what belongs to the emperor, give God what belongs to God, and give me what is mine."

101. "Whoever does not hate [father] and mother as I do cannot be my [disciple], and whoever does [not] love [father and] mother as I do cannot be my [disciple]. For my mother [...], but my true [mother] gave me life."

102. Jesus said, "Damn the Pharisees! They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger: the dog neither eats nor [lets] the cattle eat."

103. Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who know where the rebels are going to attack. [They] can get going, collect their imperial resources, and be prepared before the rebels arrive."

104. They said to Jesus, "Come, let us pray today, and let us fast."

Jesus said, "What sin have I committed, or how have I been undone? Rather, when the groom leaves the bridal suite, then let people fast and pray."

105. Jesus said, "Whoever knows the father and the mother will be called the child of a whore."

106. Jesus said, "When you make the two into one, you will become children of Adam, and when you say, 'Mountain, move from here!' it will move."

107. Jesus said, "The (Father's) kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine and looked for the one until he found it. After he had toiled, he said to the sheep, 'I love you more than the ninety-nine.'"

108. Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become like me; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him."

109. Jesus said, "The (Father's) kingdom is like a person who had a treasure hidden in his field but did not know it. And [when] he died he left it to his [son]. The son [did] not know about it either. He took over the field and sold it. The buyer went plowing, [discovered] the treasure, and began to lend money at interest to whomever he wished."

110. Jesus said, "Let one who has found the world, and has become wealthy, renounce the world."

111. Jesus said, "The heavens and the earth will roll up in your presence, and whoever is living from the living one will not see death."

Does not Jesus say, "Those who have found themselves, of them the world is not worthy"?

112. Jesus said, "Damn the flesh that depends on the soul. Damn the soul that depends on the flesh."

113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"

"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."

[Saying probably added to the original collection at a later date:]
114. Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life."

Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."

01-07-2011, 12:39 PM
Is the Bible true? Or is it just a book of stories or fairy tales. There was a day when it was reverenced and obeyed as the rule and guide from God for our lives.

Today we laugh at it's teachings, ignore it's warnings, set aside it's commandments, as if they did not exist. Yet God warns us strongly not to disregard His Holy Word. Nations have perished for doing so. There have been 21 major civilizations in the history of this world. Nineteen rotted from within on the same wicked course America and Canada are on today.

Read the warnings God gives for not paying heed to His counsel and rebuke. God says someday He will laugh at our calamity; He'll mock us when our fear cometh. My friend, I will only tell you this, if you can spit in God's face, and live contrary to the Word of God and get away with it, you're going to be the first person in the history of this world who has ever mocked God, deliberately lived contrary to His Word, and not be judged by Him. God also tells us that if we will not heed His Word, forget His laws, and set aside His counsel, God says He will also forget thy children (Hosea 4:6).

I believe many of the attacks on people's lives and many of the wicked perverse things that are happening in our nation are happening today as a result of the fact that for the past 40-45 years we have forgetten God; we have set aside His Word, and we adopted the philosophy that, "if it feels good, do it."

Be very careful about saying, "the Bible is not true." Men and women have given their whole lives just trying to disprove one thing in the Bible, and never has anyone been able to. God's Word is true. You can depend on it. You can believe it. You can build your life on it. Read it and see for yourself.

Galatians 6:7 - "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

II Timothy 3:16 - "All scripture [God's Word] is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

II Peter 1:21 - "For the prophecy [God's Word] came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

I John 5:10-11 - "He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record [God's Word], that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son."

Deuteronomy 11:18 - "Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes."

Psalms 119:11 - "Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee."

Hebrews 4:12 - "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

James 1:21-23 - "Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls."

Philippians 2:16 - "Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain."

Revelation 22:19 - "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy [God's Word], God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Proverbs 1:20-33 - "Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil."

Hosea 4:6 - "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge [God's Word], I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

01-08-2011, 11:10 PM
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01-09-2011, 08:57 PM
You can find *more apocryphal books here (http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/smf/the-christian-identity-reading-room/).

*That's additional apocryphal books as opposed to apocryphal books that are even more apocryphal than the previous apocryphal books.

CPM's Gospel of LUKE
08-10-2011, 03:24 PM
Daniel: Susanna and Daniel Chapters 1 and 2 - Christogenos 10-30-09

91:01 minutes (10.42 MB)*The Book of Daniel: Susanna and Daniel Chapters 1 and 2**

Source: Daniel: Susanna and Daniel Chapters 1 and 2 - Christogenos 10-30-09 (http://christogenea.org/content/daniel-susanna-and-daniel-chapters-1-and-2-christogenos-10-30-09)

More @ The Christian Identity Forum... (http://www.thechristianidentityforum.net/smf/christogenea-audio/daniel-susanna-and-daniel-chapters-1-and-2-christogenos-10-30-09/msg2293/#msg2293)

Christian Headlines
04-17-2012, 02:14 PM
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This photo, released by The British Library Tuesday April 17 2012, , shows the St. Cuthbert Gospel, a remarkably preserved palm-sized book which is a manuscript copy of the Gospel of John in Latin which was bought from the British branch of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), the library said Tuesday April 17, 2012. The small book - 96 mm (3.8 inches) by 136 mm (5.4 inches) - has an elaborately tooled red leather cover. It comes from the time of St. Cuthbert, who died in 687, and it was discovered inside his coffin at Durham Cathedral when it was reopened in 1104. Photo: AP / The British Library

LONDON (AP) — The British Library has paid 9 million pounds (US$14.3 million) to acquire the St. Cuthbert Gospel, a remarkably well-preserved survivor of seventh-century Britain described by the library as the oldest European book to survive fully intact.

The palm-sized book, a manuscript copy of the Gospel of John in Latin, was bought from the British branch of the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), the library said Tuesday.

The book measures 96 mm (3.8 inches) by 136 mm (5.4 inches) and has an elaborately tooled red leather cover. It comes from the time of St. Cuthbert, who died in 687, and it was discovered inside his coffin when it was opened in 1104 at Durham Cathedral.

The British Library said the artifact is one of the world's most important books.

"To look at this small and intensely beautiful treasure from the Anglo-Saxon period is to see it exactly as those who created it in the seventh century would have seen it," said the library's chief executive, Lynne Brindley.

"The exquisite binding, the pages, even the sewing structure survive intact, offering us a direct connection with our forebears 1300 years ago," she added.

Cuthbert's coffin arrived in Durham after monks had removed it from the island of Lindisfarne, 330 miles (530 kilometers) north of London, to protect the remains from Viking raiders in the ninth and 10th centuries.

The book will be displayed at the British Library in London and then in Durham, northeast England, next year.

More... (http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/British-Library-buys-14-3M-ancient-gospel-3486095.php)

06-21-2012, 09:36 AM
There's an Apocrypha section (http://covenantpeoplesministry.org/cpm/wiki/index.php?title=Apocrypha) on CPW.

Feel free to add your favorite texts.

Yahweh's Chosen
05-20-2013, 10:29 AM
It depends on what exactly you mean by "apocrypha". What many today call "apocrypha" were not what the early Christians considered to be apocrypha. "Apocrypha" to them would be books like the Gospel of Judas and other spurious and heretical works.

Depending on which father you read, books were divided into three categories: those which are suitable to be read in the churches (meaning in the liturgical cycle of readings); those books which are good to be read, but not suitable to be read in the churches; those books which are apocrypha. Most of the books that many today refer to as "apocrypha" fall into the second category of books. However, some of them fall into the first category. If you google some of the earlier councils that dealt with the canon of Scripture (i.e., that which is read in the churches), most of them included a few of the "apocryphal" books, and they excluded some of what the Protestants would consider to be "canonical" books.

So "secondary" really just means that they were not considered suitable to be part of the liturgical cycle of readings. And if you read through the Old Testament readings in the Orthodox lectionary, you'll find that there aren't a whole lot. And the ones that are there are there for a reason. For example, during Lent there will be readings from Isaiah. However, not every part of Isaiah is included.

Also, there are specific feasts and events that have readings from or allude to passages from the Old Testament, and those are not part of the normal cycle of readings. But since they're used in the churches, they're "on the list".

So for us, it's not as simple as "this is part of the Bible and this isn't."

03-04-2016, 02:32 AM
ODE CHAPTER 34 (from the odes of solomon)

True poetry--pure and simple

1 No way is hard where there is a simple heart.

2 Nor is there any wound where the thoughts are upright:
3 Nor is there any storm in the depth of the illuminated thought:
4 Where one is surrounded on every side by beauty, there is nothing that is divided.

5 The likeness of what is below is that which is above; for everything is above: what is below is nothing but the imagination of those that are without knowledge.

6 Grace has been revealed for your salvation. Believe and live and be saved. Hallelujah.

This is one of my favorite teachings * So beautiful and eloquent * Blessings - B.V.