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Evesdaughter14
05-12-2017, 12:04 AM
How, in your opinion can a man proclaim that he follows God's laws and also supports the mgtow movement?

frey#89
05-12-2017, 12:15 AM
In my biased opinion. No.. Their is only one king Jesus Christ. In my life experience. Can not change a wrong by being apart of it. MGTOW promotes race mixing, dares not criticize the JOO, keeps the narrative of the JOO managed police state in a closed box.
Kindness and mercy toward our race is one of the golden rules in the laws of Yahweh. Very good question!!!!

Evesdaughter14
05-12-2017, 11:26 AM
In my biased opinion. No.. Their is only one king Jesus Christ. In my life experience. Can not change a wrong by being apart of it. MGTOW promotes race mixing, dares not criticize the JOO, keeps the narrative of the JOO managed police state in a closed box.
Kindness and mercy toward our race is one of the golden rules in the laws of Yahweh. Very good question!!!!

Thank you for your response. Some women have encountered via the internet some of these mgtow men and some of the men say that they are dutifully Christian but in my opinion this mgtow group goes against all that God requires of us. He said "It is not good that man be alone...." So just using that alone, these mgtow men are not listening to God. I understand that feminist women have ruined some men's views of us women but to be so anti-woman and purposely stay single ... Well... I just don't see how these so called men can say they live biblical lives and then be a part of this.

BillyRoper
05-12-2017, 12:13 PM
Thank you for your response. Some women have encountered via the internet some of these mgtow men and some of the men say that they are dutifully Christian but in my opinion this mgtow group goes against all that God requires of us. He said "It is not good that man be alone...." So just using that alone, these mgtow men are not listening to God. I understand that feminist women have ruined some men's views of us women but to be so anti-woman and purposely stay single ... Well... I just don't see how these so called men can say they live biblical lives and then be a part of this.

Especially since the MGTOW and White Sharia factions claim that White women should literally be raped, and many of them are race traitors who prefer Asian girls.

frey#89
05-12-2017, 08:15 PM
I have more on my mind about MGTOW. Evesdauther14. I want to be respectful to white kinsmen in this belief. In my experience watching videos on MGTOW.
Women were the gold diggers and noisy mind game players. Never capable of honest hard work. Then there was the white knights who were men in police, fire departments, joo police administrators, judeo preachers, ect.. who helped women use their schemes to use societies financial sector to their favor. Other platforms were guys not being able to whore munger and invasion of privacy. Women were irredeemable and wanted to end prostitution to make sex very hard to get and expensive. In turn get more money from whoring around. Also the judeo christian churches were so called traditionalists. They Represent a age old system that used men to do dangerous work, do most of the worry, shame them into hard work ect... though time. Muslims, Buddhists, pagans just were to weak to be accountable??
White racism was the plantation that men were on. Race mixing brought a strong master race thus Yahweh's system of racial homogeneity was oppressive and mean.
So few of us racialists out there to add input about MGTOW. So I decided to write a long post on my street knowledge on MGTOW. A short form answer would not get a descent answer.
BY no means I am a religious or holy man. I need forgiveness and mercy from Jesus Christ everyday and second of the day. I do not know everything and it is Yahweh that is all knowing not me.

נהאל (Neal)
05-13-2017, 04:37 AM
...Some women have encountered via the internet some of these mgtow men and some of the men say that they are dutifully Christian but in my opinion this mgtow group goes against all that God requires of us. He said "It is not good that man be alone...." So just using that alone, these mgtow men are not listening to God. I understand that feminist women have ruined some men's views of us women but to be so anti-woman and purposely stay single ... Well... I just don't see how these so called men can say they live biblical lives and then be a part of this.

If you want to help our men, speaking to any potential brothers in mgtow this way will drive them away. Here's some Scripture:

Paul, after speaking of a proper marriage tells us...


I Corinthians 7-9, 25-28 KJV

7For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

25Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.26I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.27Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.28But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.


Matthew 19:10-12 KJV

10His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. 11But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.


Isaiah 56:3-5 KJV (bold indicates updated word)

3...neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. 4For thus saith Yahweh unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; 4Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.


Acts 8:36-39 KJV (bold indicates updated word)

36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Yahshua Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

In regards to people in mgtow saying that women should be raped, etc.: Cannot saying such things be forgiven? Is it not doing such things that makes it a sin unto death?

In regards to whether women should be subject unto their men, the Scripture is extremely clear from the Old Testament:


Genesis 3:16 KJV

16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

To the New:


I Corinthians 11:3 KJV

3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

BillyRoper
05-13-2017, 09:08 AM
Any MGTOW who supports open race traitors like Andrew Anglin, or advocates raping White women to "put them in their place" or make them into breeders, or who want to enact White Sharia and adopt nonWhite Muslim treatment of women are either just beta males who can't get a White woman, or are purposefully working against our race. Either way, they are destructive and negative to the cause, and to our people. They are my enemy, regardless of what alphabet they use. Those who advocate it are promoting it. Forgivance can only come once the sin stops and is followed by repentance. So, if they stopped advocating it, and repented, then, I might forgive them. I can't speak for God. I do know that it is counter-productive for our people.

נהאל (Neal)
05-13-2017, 11:44 AM
Any MGTOW who supports open race traitors like Andrew Anglin, or advocates raping White women to "put them in their place" or make them into breeders, or who want to enact White Sharia and adopt nonWhite Muslim treatment of women are either just beta males who can't get a White woman, or are purposefully working against our race. Either way, they are destructive and negative to the cause, and to our people. They are my enemy, regardless of what alphabet they use. Those who advocate it are promoting it. Forgivance can only come once the sin stops and is followed by repentance. So, if they stopped advocating it, and repented, then, I might forgive them. I can't speak for God. I do know that it is counter-productive for our people.

Here's a letter from Paul which he wrote to some of his most successful converts:


I Thessalonians 3-13 KJV

2 ...we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention. 3 For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile: 4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. 5 For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God is witness: 6 Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ. 7 But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children: 8 So being affectionately desirous of you, we were willing to have imparted unto you, not the gospel of God only, but also our own souls, because ye were dear unto us. 9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God. 10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe: 11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged every one of you, as a father doth his children, 12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory. 13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

If you really want to help our men and not make them worse, Paul's a good example don't you think?

How many mgtow men do you think have ever been taught what repentance actually is? Or have been shown which Scriptural verses define what rape is? (Deuteronomy 22:23-27) And what rape isn't? (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

Or that breeding is the woman's path to salvation?


I Timothy 11-15 KJV

11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Don't you think referring to potential converts as 'beta-males' or to those who are multi-lingual whom you've never even met before as 'enemies' is actually what's counter-productive, destructive, and negative for the Christian Cause?

Here's Master Yahshua praying to Father Yahweh, for his disciples and for those who would come after them:


John 17:17-21 KJV

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


The Scriptural quotes in the above posts, they may be of help in speaking to potential converts such that they realize they're right about some things and wrong about others. And if they are nurtured and comforted like a father with his children towards the Truth, just as Paul says, perhaps then they may realize that it's not just sexual roles that have been turned upside down in this wicked world, but that there are other problems akin to that which you've already discussed.

Evesdaughter14
05-13-2017, 12:37 PM
I have more on my mind about MGTOW. Evesdauther14. I want to be respectful to white kinsmen in this belief. In my experience watching videos on MGTOW.
Women were the gold diggers and noisy mind game players. Never capable of honest hard work. Then there was the white knights who were men in police, fire departments, joo police administrators, judeo preachers, ect.. who helped women use their schemes to use societies financial sector to their favor. Other platforms were guys not being able to whore munger and invasion of privacy. Women were irredeemable and wanted to end prostitution to make sex very hard to get and expensive. In turn get more money from whoring around. Also the judeo christian churches were so called traditionalists. They Represent a age old system that used men to do dangerous work, do most of the worry, shame them into hard work ect... though time. Muslims, Buddhists, pagans just were to weak to be accountable??
White racism was the plantation that men were on. Race mixing brought a strong master race thus Yahweh's system of racial homogeneity was oppressive and mean.
So few of us racialists out there to add input about MGTOW. So I decided to write a long post on my street knowledge on MGTOW. A short form answer would not get a descent answer.
BY no means I am a religious or holy man. I need forgiveness and mercy from Jesus Christ everyday and second of the day. I do not know everything and it is Yahweh that is all knowing not me.

I appreciate your response, I understand why the so called movement came to be but I don't see how it can aid bringing our people together and building strong families. Maybe too much damage had been caused and men and women are doomed to always have these types of wedges between them?

Evesdaughter14
05-13-2017, 12:40 PM
If you want to help our men, speaking to any potential brothers in mgtow this way will drive them away. Here's some Scripture:

Paul, after speaking of a proper marriage tells us...


I Corinthians 7-9, 25-28 KJV



Matthew 19:10-12 KJV



Isaiah 56:3-5 KJV (bold indicates updated word)



Acts 8:36-39 KJV (bold indicates updated word)


In regards to people in mgtow saying that women should be raped, etc.: Cannot saying such things be forgiven? Is it not doing such things that makes it a sin unto death?

In regards to whether women should be subject unto their men, the Scripture is extremely clear from the Old Testament:


Genesis 3:16 KJV


To the New:


I Corinthians 11:3 KJV


I actually have never had any interaction with these mgtow men, that I know of, which is why after hearing from women who have had interaction with these men, I asked questions.
Thank you for your response.

frey#89
05-13-2017, 06:08 PM
I enjoyed the responses on the thread. Neal made a great point with the word of Yahweh. In my opinion. There is so much hurt pride and indignity that there is no carnal answer to solving MGTOW,s confusion. Some of the kindred suffer more chaos and thoughtless insensitivity of multi multiculturalism than others. Seems like getting persons converted to Identity is compared to exorcism of demons?
Glad there are others out their who care about right and wrong Evesdaughter14. You try very hard. Yahweh bless

נהאל (Neal)
05-13-2017, 06:36 PM
I actually have never had any interaction with these mgtow men, that I know of, which is why after hearing from women who have had interaction with these men, I asked questions.
Thank you for your response.

Same here. I've only heard about them through bad conversations with women calling themselves "asexuals" pretending to be historians who also had a fetish for cosplay. 8| They absolutely hated these men and I was left to conclude that they hate men generally. They ended up hating on me when I simply disagreed with their stance on totally unrelated issues from any of these hyper-sexualized ideologies that are so pervasive in our nations today. But that's what they kept coming back to, as a straw-man argument against me.

My experience is that women bring this subject up more than men.

And my opinion is that most of the men in mgtow probably want a decent wife and would rather not have gotten caught up in all this mess in the first place, but lean on it now because they don't know what else to do. Pornography is the same awful way. They don't understand why things are so bad and why they are the way they are, because it takes time to inform someone about the Truth of the Scriptures. Else they were never intended to understand it in the first place.

A lot of these men may be brothers who are in actual need of Spiritual help from real Christians. (I Corinthians 12:20-26 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinthians-12-20_12-26/), Matthew 25:37-40 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-25-37_25-40/).)

But one should probably not expect even the most potential of converts to Christianity in mgtow to suddenly drop all this rhetoric in a day (which mostly is rhetoric in the lower ranks, emotive talk intended to communicate how much they hurt by trying to make others feel the same way they do.)

It takes time to come out of Babylon, and the Scripture says that most of Adam is not going to make it. But maybe there's a handful of good men waiting to be found there in mgtow. Perhaps one way to reach this subsection in particular is to show them the pertinent verses above and how some of their beliefs in mgtow are almost Christian. That's it. Let the Holy Spirit do the rest. (Luke 8:4-8 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-8-4_8-8/).)

Thank you for your kindness!

P.S. And thanks Frey!

Michael
05-14-2017, 04:34 AM
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If they are prepared to listen I would take Neal's approach, but if they dig their heels in and contend against Christ I would take Billy Ropers approach.
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BillyRoper
05-14-2017, 08:18 AM
I HAVE had a lot of experience talking with MGTOW, not just online but face to face. Most of them ARE beta males, by definition. They don't know how to talk to women, or interact with them. They are socially awkward and inter-gender inexperienced. What works in radicalizing the Alt Right, whose approach to racialism is like a contrarian adolescent, is to give them firm guidelines and discipline. No, you're not going to promote Muslim cultural and familial relations or treatment of White women. No, you're not going to promote forming rape gangs of White men to chase down forcibly impregnate White girls, just because you're too backwards to get a girlfriend. No, you're not going to promote having sex with Asian girls, while claiming that most of our race's problems are the fault of our White women. Today being Mother's Day, I think it's very appropriate to say that a Traditionalist, healthy Patriarchy would treat these MGTOW guys as bad-acting adolescents. don't be misled, MGTOW are not monks who just think they can't get a decent woman. They're sexually frustrated wallflowers who think the only way they can get a woman is by raping them or chasing Asian girls. The way to help them is not to pile on the criticism of our mothers, sisters, daughters, and wives, but by teaching them that women respect courage and strength, not beta males. That's the effect of my experience with them in the real world, face to face.

Michael
05-14-2017, 09:18 AM
I HAVE had a lot of experience talking with MGTOW, not just online but face to face. Most of them ARE beta males, by definition. They don't know how to talk to women, or interact with them. They are socially awkward and inter-gender inexperienced. What works in radicalizing the Alt Right, whose approach to racialism is like a contrarian adolescent, is to give them firm guidelines and discipline. No, you're not going to promote Muslim cultural and familial relations or treatment of White women. No, you're not going to promote forming rape gangs of White men to chase down forcibly impregnate White girls, just because you're too backwards to get a girlfriend. No, you're not going to promote having sex with Asian girls, while claiming that most of our race's problems are the fault of our White women. Today being Mother's Day, I think it's very appropriate to say that a Traditionalist, healthy Patriarchy would treat these MGTOW guys as bad-acting adolescents. don't be misled, MGTOW are not monks who just think they can't get a decent woman. They're sexually frustrated wallflowers who think the only way they can get a woman is by raping them or chasing Asian girls. The way to help them is not to pile on the criticism of our mothers, sisters, daughters, and wives, but by teaching them that women respect courage and strength, not beta males. That's the effect of my experience with them in the real world, face to face.

I have no experience of them whatsoever apart from this thread, but it sounds like they are just what we don't need:
another dysfunctional lobby group !

Astragoth
05-14-2017, 10:48 AM
I HAVE had a lot of experience talking with MGTOW, not just online but face to face. Most of them ARE beta males, by definition. They don't know how to talk to women, or interact with them. They are socially awkward and inter-gender inexperienced. What works in radicalizing the Alt Right, whose approach to racialism is like a contrarian adolescent, is to give them firm guidelines and discipline. No, you're not going to promote Muslim cultural and familial relations or treatment of White women. No, you're not going to promote forming rape gangs of White men to chase down forcibly impregnate White girls, just because you're too backwards to get a girlfriend. No, you're not going to promote having sex with Asian girls, while claiming that most of our race's problems are the fault of our White women. Today being Mother's Day, I think it's very appropriate to say that a Traditionalist, healthy Patriarchy would treat these MGTOW guys as bad-acting adolescents. don't be misled, MGTOW are not monks who just think they can't get a decent woman. They're sexually frustrated wallflowers who think the only way they can get a woman is by raping them or chasing Asian girls. The way to help them is not to pile on the criticism of our mothers, sisters, daughters, and wives, but by teaching them that women respect courage and strength, not beta males. That's the effect of my experience with them in the real world, face to face.

If we had a traditional healthy patriarchy mgtow wouldn't even exist. Mgtow exists for a reason you know.

נהאל (Neal)
05-14-2017, 11:40 AM
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If they are prepared to listen I would take Neal's approach, but if they dig their heels in and contend against Christ I would take Billy Ropers approach.
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Michael, we should always strive to take the Biblical approach, whether or not each individual in a group is listening or whether or not each one of them can be saved.

Because you never know when or where that one lost sheep might be listening out for the Shepherd:


Matthew 18:11-14 KJV

11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. 12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Yahshua would speak to entire groups of people, and often they were even worse groups of people than mgtow is described as being, including Pharisees, Sadducees, prostitutes and (some might argue as being the worst of all:) publicans.

But He actually wasn't speaking to everyone in the group nor was He advocating this group over that group.

Rather, He always advocated the Kingdom of Heaven and His Father's Law.

One day he was asked why He would speak in parables, and He actually went on to explain:


Matthew 13:11-16 KJV

11 ...Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. 12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath. 13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. 14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

So even though He spoke to each of these groups, He was only trying to convert and save His sheep which were lost in each group and not everyone in that group, nor the group itself.

So again, if anyone reading this thread comes across any men claiming to be Christians (or even not) who are in mgtow: simply quoting any of the above Scripture may be enough to get them started on the path of salvation.

When applicable, show them that they are right about some things (for instance, women do need to be put in their place under the men, just as the men need to be put in their place under Christ.) Do not guilt-trip them by lying to them that there is something wrong with being a man who refuses sex or intimacies with women (Christ Himself was a Nazarite.) But also, show them where they are wrong when they are wrong (such as when any of them claim women should be raped, quote Deuteronomy, even if not for them but another man who may be listening.)

It's up to Yahweh and Yahshua which ones are going to be saved. Just don't forget the parable of the lost sheep:

...it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

frey#89
05-14-2017, 02:22 PM
I second that (Neal). I have little biblical knowledge with other brother in Christ reinforcing reason as well as right brings pride to me. I figure a man can never have to many friends. Our enemies are powerful and numerous from our sins. Word of Yahweh from a knowledgeable teacher is hard to find. Yahweh is my priority.

Michael
05-14-2017, 03:28 PM
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We are all dysfunctional to a greater or lesser extent, especially without a Biblical grounding. It seems to me that MGTOW is just another symptom of our people under attack, reacting to another symptom - Feminism. Its divide and rule . . .

The problem is that without the Bible they all form sick powerful lobby groups that continue the attack on Biblical values. They actually join the ranks of the opposition activating against Christianity.

In peacetime I will still go along with Neal, but when push comes to shove it will be a different story. . .

We have to deal with their more passive rearguard, but I think Billy Roper is having to contend with all their different sick activists on the front line.

When they do threaten you or your family, you are entitled to to defend yourself to the hilt.

Yet it is actually due to men like Neal that many can be told that they were told . . .

And even if they weren't, they have the Law and the Prophets just like we did, its on the bookshelf somewhere.

I had to think my way out of sick liberalism, with a lot less than what is available to a thinking person today.

It seems that they don't want to think.
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נהאל (Neal)
05-14-2017, 05:32 PM
@Frey
Thank you brother. May we remain faithful in God rather than prideful in each other! All Goodness comes from Above :) (Matthew 19:17 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-19-17/))

@Michael
I appreciate those of our people who take the Gospel to the streets because I'm not a speaker myself. As a scribe, I'm trying to stick to the gifts given me (I Corinthians 12 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Corinthians-Chapter-12/)), so I read, write, and type.

There may be some misunderstanding here: something that makes mgtow different from feminism and other like activist groups is that most mgtow is online and not on the streets.

From the wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way):


Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW, pronounced (/ˈmɪɡtaʊ/)) is a mostly pseudonymous online community[2][3] supported by websites and social media presences[4] cautioning men against romantic relationships with women, especially marriage.[5][6] The community is part of what is more broadly termed the manosphere.[7]

This means that any online encounters with them on social media (YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) can be opportunities to share Scripture (usually by copy and paste) without fear of being physically attacked. (Though technological attacks may be a different story.)

Most of these social media sites are interlinked in such a way that anyone in mgtow can read what a popular mgtow leader posts, so even if you don't target potential convert's social media directly, but go after their leaders instead, who may or may not be convertable, you can speak to a lot of potential brothers at one time because they can all read the conversation you had with their leader.

For any of our people working on the streets, take comfort and know that the prophets of old were in constant danger too. But they never found it necessary to waver from the Message of the Kingdom of Heaven contained within the Holy Scriptures.

For anyone interested in reaching out to these potential brothers in mgtow, and you need some good Scriptural quotes to get you going, I hope that I can help you if I haven't already.

For any men who are from mgtow reading this and are interested in the Gospel of the Kingdom, know that what Michael says is absolutely true, we are all dysfunctional to some extent or another. But through goodly acts, and stopping the bad ones that we do, we can be forgiven for most of our faults. More importantly we can work towards the inevitable coming of a better world where the evil of this one is completely eradicated, and the ills that have been done to you in the here and now can be undone. But it requires faith.

Let me explain. Although I've never been a part of mgtow, there was a time when I focused entirely too much on the hurt done to me by women, so I sense that I may possibly relate to how you feel. Though it's taken time and effort, reading the Scripture and focusing on the Kingdom (even as incompletely as I have) has certainly helped to heal my heart and my spirit from these past hurts, and I had no idea that this would be the case.

I discovered that the Bible actually tells us the Truth, that there is a lot wrong with this world. The inversion and perversion of women is but one such wrong, and there are others that we need to work on in ourselves as men. Yet there's even more which we alone can't fix, but only God can. And He certainly will!

To learn more about all this, along with reading the Bible, may I suggest checking out Pastor Eli James? He's the one that God worked through to wake me up. There's a plethora of material done by this man all over the internet, and I believe that if Yahweh and Yahshua wills it, they will guide you to exactly what you need to hear, if even by a simple internet search.

Have faith, and know that you're intuition regarding the system, your experience with women, it's all paid off. You've stumbled across something inestimably valuable, the Truth. Know that this world is in error and that it is going to get fixed.


Matthew 6:33 KJV

33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

BillyRoper
05-15-2017, 02:04 PM
I'm having an IRL ShieldWall Network meeting this weekend. A few of those who will be present were formerly MGTOW. I just made it clear that I wouldn't tolerate that kind of White Sharia, Andrew Anglin Asian loving, White woman hating silliness.

Astragoth
05-15-2017, 05:32 PM
You know Anglin has a point with women playing a large part in the ongoing destruction of our countries.
There was a reason women were never allowed to vote in the past. Its was because we wanted to avoid
this very situation. There's a general backlash against feminism and its not surprising.

Erik
05-15-2017, 06:04 PM
I've been hearing this White Sharia lately and never really knew where it came from. Someone on my fb posted a White Sharia parody song from Renegade broadcasting (anti-Christs). I can't believe there are some who believe rape is ok to make more White babies....Rape is punishable by death in the bible and most women would abort the child. It just shows how fallen this world really is.

Erik
05-15-2017, 06:09 PM
Honestly, I find it quite sad that so many from both genders like to hate on each other. There are a number of reasons for why we're where we are today. The main reason is our people have come away from Yahweh and we are being punished for disobedience. Deuteronomy Ch. 28 is a good example of curses etc. I of course believe in gender roles, but that doesn't mean treating eachother like crap. For some reason the pagans etc think Christianity enslaves women, which is not true at all. Eve was created as a help mate for Adam.

Astragoth
05-15-2017, 06:38 PM
I've been hearing this White Sharia lately and never really knew where it came from. Someone on my fb posted a White Sharia parody song from Renegade broadcasting (anti-Christs). I can't believe there are some who believe rape is ok to make more White babies....Rape is punishable by death in the bible and most women would abort the child. It just shows how fallen this world really is.
Its a joke is what it is. One podcast called the war room started the meme. Basically its a group of military vets that get more and more inebriated as the show goes on.
They started drunkenly mouthing off and just ran with it. Oh i'm pretty sure most of them are married.

BillyRoper
05-16-2017, 11:35 AM
Andrew Anglin is a race traitor who currently still advocates racial treason.

frey#89
05-16-2017, 03:49 PM
Its a joke is what it is. One podcast called the war room started the meme. Basically its a group of military vets that get more and more inebriated as the show goes on.
They started drunkenly mouthing off and just ran with it. Oh i'm pretty sure most of them are married.

Very good point Astragoth. The lack of communication between us kinsmen helps the children of Satan and his police state keep us divided and confused. The post was informative and edifying.
I like to add there are ladies and gentlemen in community stalking'' all organized by approved ADL overseers, ect.... All the while they are unknowing most of the time or knowing, dividing our kindred and enforcing political correctness, multi cultural ism, feminism, fake. All under cover of being christian, volunteer fire fighter ect... Lot of moles and trouble makers out there.
I am only speaking for myself,, when saying I apologize for these uninformed white Isrealites, Churches ect.... It drives White Nationalists away from us in my opinion. It brings hatred of the true followers of Jesus Christ. I hope Yahweh will be heard and respected by opposing world religions wanting harm to us ..

Astragoth
05-16-2017, 04:49 PM
Very good point Astragoth. The lack of communication between us kinsmen helps the children of Satan and his police state keep us divided and confused. The post was informative and edifying.
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Thanks. "White sharia" is basically a crude meme calling for the return of traditional gender roles. Oh maybe Anglin is a sinner and maybe he isn't but that doesn't make him wrong on some issues.
Its a sad state of affairs when white men seek the comfort of Asian women because most white women are so intolerable.

frey#89
05-16-2017, 05:35 PM
I'm having an IRL ShieldWall Network meeting this weekend. A few of those who will be present were formerly MGTOW. I just made it clear that I wouldn't tolerate that kind of White Sharia, Andrew Anglin Asian loving, White woman hating silliness.

Isolation from fellowship makes it easier to be ganged up on by the children of Satan. So much hurt pride out there. A clear single universal answer for all our race is so hard to find nowadays. May peace among all Isrealite men and women be found who are hurting in soul and heart.

BillyRoper
05-17-2017, 09:42 AM
Thanks. "White sharia" is basically a crude meme calling for the return of traditional gender roles. Oh maybe Anglin is a sinner and maybe he isn't but that doesn't make him wrong on some issues.
Its a sad state of affairs when white men seek the comfort of Asian women because most white women are so intolerable.

Maybe he's a sinner an maybe he isn't? Andrew Anglin's literally and actively anti-Christian and literally and actively promoting White men having sex with nonWhite women, and says it does no harm and that it cucks nonWhite men. Did Phineas say, "Oh, maybe he's a sinner, and maybe he isn't?" Wow.

ArchType
05-17-2017, 09:46 AM
Thanks. "White sharia" is basically a crude meme calling for the return of traditional gender roles. Oh maybe Anglin is a sinner and maybe he isn't but that doesn't make him wrong on some issues.
Its a sad state of affairs when white men seek the comfort of Asian women because most white women are so intolerable.


Maybe he's a sinner an maybe he isn't? Andrew Anglin's literally and actively anti-Christian and literally and actively promoting White men having sex with nonWhite women, and says it does no harm and that it cucks nonWhite men. Did Phineas say, "Oh, maybe he's a sinner, and maybe he isn't?" Wow.

I'd have to agree, it's pretty cut and dry with Anglin. There's no room for misinterpretation at all.

A broken clock is right twice a day. Damn thing's still broken.

Astragoth
05-17-2017, 12:35 PM
Maybe he's a sinner an maybe he isn't? Andrew Anglin's literally and actively anti-Christian and literally and actively promoting White men having sex with nonWhite women, and says it does no harm and that it cucks nonWhite men. Did Phineas say, "Oh, maybe he's a sinner, and maybe he isn't?" Wow.

I have no idea what he has done actually frankly I'm not sure I care. I try not to concern myself about everyone else's sins I try and worry about my own.
The "purity spiraling"routine gets old after awhile. Especially given current circumstances. "Take the beam out of your eye" comes to mind.

ArchType
05-17-2017, 12:54 PM
I have no idea what he has done actually frankly I'm not sure I care. I try not to concern myself about everyone else's sins I try and worry about my own.
The "purity spiraling"routine gets old after awhile. Especially given current circumstances. "Take the beam out of your eye" comes to mind.

Another good point.

נהאל (Neal)
05-17-2017, 03:30 PM
I have no idea what he has done actually frankly I'm not sure I care. I try not to concern myself about everyone else's sins I try and worry about my own.
The "purity spiraling"routine gets old after awhile. Especially given current circumstances. "Take the beam out of your eye" comes to mind.

It's righteous to work on our own salvation with fear and trembling (Philippians 2:12 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Philippians-2-12/)), but it's also righteous to help our brethren:


Mark 2:16-17 KJV (bold indicates updated word)

16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? 17 When Yahshua heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

It's good to call out a sinner for being a sinner, in the hopes and prayers that our brothers and sisters will repent and inherit the Kingdom with us. It's when we call out others for sins that we ourselves commit that we become hypocrites, and are blinded by the beams in our eyes.

Also, don't forget, many brothers and sisters sometimes listen to influential sinners. They too could use a wake-up call.

Some men are antichrists and will not repent, but if a man is willing to repent of race-mixing, he can be forgiven. That goes for any man, whether he be in mgtow, the Anglin-sphere, or where have you:


Ezra 10:1-3 KJV

1 Now when Ezra had prayed, and when he had confessed, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there assembled unto him out of Israel a very great congregation of men and women and children: for the people wept very sore. 2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing. 3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

Please read the rest of Ezra 10 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ezra-Chapter-10/) to see the multitude of men who repented.

ArchType
05-17-2017, 05:11 PM
The key here is "repented". To be fair.. Anglin has not repented, but rather the opposite. So any knives thrown his way would seem deserved. But I'm with Astragoth on not giving a flip about the guy. If he was here posting I'd feel differently. But that's just me. Plus I'm an a-hole when it comes to certain things, so I don't know and also really don't care. There's a million more just like him. At least he's not claiming to be CI.

Getting back to the topic of the thread, MGTOW, I see it as another means in destruction for the white race. The more white men who gravitate towards it the smaller our population becomes as a result. MGTOW at it's core means men not having ANYTHING to do with women period. Anything about raping, taking advantage, or what have you was added by MGTOW men who absolutely hate and loath women and are perverts to boot. At it's core (MGTOW) it's about no contact or the least amount of contact with women possible. That in itself, meaning the core principles of MGTOW, is damaging to our white race and it's survival. My opinion.

seedliner
06-19-2017, 11:20 PM
I had no idea what MGTOW meant until this thread was posted.

Freud would call this one a slip.

Beorn Aldwyn
06-19-2017, 11:33 PM
I had no idea what MGTOW meant until this thread was posted.

Freud would call this one a slip.

Men Going Their Own Way

It's fairly popular in youtube communities and especially popular with butthurt beta males that can't get a date to save their life. lol

frey#89
07-27-2017, 12:26 PM
Something came to my mind about MGTOW. I am reading the book of JOB in the books of Yahweh. Suffering brought Job to reason the reality of how blessings causes one to be insensitive and arrogant .. I personally do not want to be a agent of Satan to cause misery to women. I wish misery on no one, it is Yahweh's business. In my opinion.

Astragoth
07-27-2017, 07:01 PM
Men Going Their Own Way

It's fairly popular in youtube communities and especially popular with butthurt beta males that can't get a date to save their life. lol

Or men that have gotten royally screwed by women and their jew lawyers in divorce court and are now working themselves to death to pay for kids they'll
never see and a house they don't live in. Something I've seen over and over and over in the years I've worked.
The fact is most men nowadays don't want to deal with modern white women to many of them act like jewesses.
They aren't feminine no one wants to marry a man with tits and thats what most western women act like.
Why do you think white men marry their china dolls?

frey#89
01-09-2018, 01:29 PM
Or men that have gotten royally screwed by women and their jew lawyers in divorce court and are now working themselves to death to pay for kids they'll
never see and a house they don't live in. Something I've seen over and over and over in the years I've worked.
The fact is most men nowadays don't want to deal with modern white women to many of them act like jewesses.
They aren't feminine no one wants to marry a man with tits and thats what most western women act like.
Why do you think white men marry their china dolls?

Good comment Astragoth. Me personally. Sad to say;; going anywhere on earth without the Jew feminist--- rape , domestic violence, kids staving to death hysteria is a pleasant desirable place to be. The multicultural police state mentality is clearly everywhere you buy and sell in the once white nations of the earth. Oh the agony and shame put on us white guy in the remnant who are sensitive enough to care or honest enough not to worship the God of equality. Praise Yahweh.

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