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    The Seduction of Eve

    What Really Happened in the Garden of Eden?
    By Dr. Wesley Swift

    THE MESSAGE:- Most people are under the assumption that the Fall of white Adamic man in the Garden of Eden was brought on by Eve listening to the manipulative and deceitful words of a literal talking snake and Eve's eating of a literal piece of fruit that she took from the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.' In this message, I will show you that the Fall in the Garden was not brought on by what I just mentioned. Rather, using only the Scriptures, I will show you that the Fall was brought on by an unholy sexual union between Satan and Eve. In Gen. 3:1, we read of a 'serpent' appearing to Eve in the Garden of Eden. It's important to realize that the 'serpent' spoken of here was not a literal snake, but rather Satan in human form. The word 'serpent' here means 'Magician or enchanter. A spellbinder.' Check your 'Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible' for definition verification here. Now, in Rev. 12:7-9, we read about a war in Heaven, when Lucifer and the angels who followed him into rebellion against God were defeated by Michael and the angels who reamined loyal to the Almighty. Lucifer became 'that old serpent, called the Devil and Satan' (Rev. 12:9 - KJV). Now we know that when Satan is referred to as a 'serpent' here that it's not talking about him being manifest in the form of a literal snake. The same thing applies to the use of the word 'serpent' in Gen. chapter three. We also see in Rev. 12:9 that Lucifer and the rebellious angels lost their place in Heaven and were cast down to the earth. Back in Gen. 3:1, we read that the 'serpent' was 'more subtil (subtle) than any beast of the field' (KJV). The word 'subtil (subtle)' here means 'cunning or crafty (usually in a bad sense).' Again, consult Strong's for definition verification. So we see that a crafty 'serpent' had appeared to Eve in the Garden. It's important now to point out that the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' was not a literal tree! The 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil', first spoken of in Gen. 2:9, was representative in a figurative sense of the Pre-Adamic (black & yellow) races and nations which surrounded the Garden in which Adam and Eve lived. (For the origins of the races, please request read the article titled 'Can Anyone Achieve Salvation?'. This article explains the origins of the Pre-Adamic races and the Adamic race.)

    For good examples of how trees are used in a figurative sense to describe people, races and nations please read: Ezek. 31:3-9 (Assyrian Empire); Jer. 11:19 (about Jeremiah) and Matt. 3:10 (people standing judgement). We see in Gen. 3:3 that the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' was the 'tree' that Adam and Eve weren't supposed to 'touch.' We know that literal trees posess no knowledge of good and evil. In Ezek. 31:9 it says (in reference to the vast Assyrian Empire) that 'all the trees of Eden, that were in the Garden of God, envied him' (KJV). Literal trees can't 'envy' anything. This Scripture is clearly showing us that the 'trees' spoken of here are merely figurative representations of races and nations that envied the Assyrian Empire. In Gen. 3:4-7, we see that Satan (the 'serpent') leads Eve astray and she in turn leads Adam astray as well. But, was the leading astray the simple eating of a literal piece of fruit from the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil'? The answer to that question is no.

    First of all, we see in Gen. 2:25 that Adam and Eve were not ashamed of their nakedness. They obviously had the perfect bodies that God had intended for them when they were created. Now, notice after the Fall, in Gen. 3:7 & 10, that Adam and Eve were suddenly ashamed of their bodies. Why would you be ashamed of your body if all you had done was eat a piece of fruit? Now, back in Gen. 3:3, Eve tells Satan that neither she nor Adam can 'touch' the 'fruit' of the 'Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil' because if they do, they'll die. The word 'touch' here means 'to lay hands upon, to lie with.' See Strong's again. When you 'lie' with someone in this capacity, it's obviously sexual in nature. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in these passages do not mean the literal consumption of food. The words 'eat' or 'ate' when used in the first 15 verses of Genesis chapter three means '(lit. or fig.) to consume, devour (partake).' Consult Strong's one more time. When you partake in something, that means you are engaging in an activity. And Eve certainly did partake here! She engaged in sex with Satan (the 'serpent') who appeared to her in human form and sexually seduced her. In Gen. 3:13, we read that Eve, called in front of God to account for her misdeed said, 'The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat (partake)' (KJV). The word 'beguiled' here means to 'morally seduce.' IT'S NOT A MORAL SEDUCTION TO EAT A LITERAL PIECE OF FRUIT! This further confirms that the grand sin that led to the Fall in the Garden was sexual in nature. In Gen. 3:6 & 12, we see that Eve led Adam into this debauchery by coaxing him into having sex with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. Gen. 3:15 then tells us that two literal, biological seedlines are to come forth from Eve. They are the seedline of Satan and the seedline of the woman (through Adam). Verse 15 also tells us that the two seedlines would be in direct conflict with one another and in the end the Satantic seed will be crushed. And there is to be a major 'enmity (hatred)' between the two seedlines. Also, the 'fruit' spoken of in these passages is not literal fruit like an apple or an orange.

    The 'fruit' spoken of here is offspring, descendants. Hit Strong's once more. We know that a literal piece of fruit isn't the product of a sexual relationship between a man and a woman. More people are the product of those types of relations. Let's briefly re-cap the Fall in the Garden as spoken of in Gen. chapter three. We now that the 'serpent' was not a literal snake, but rather Satan in human form. We also know that that the grand sin that led to the Fall was not the consumption of literal fruit, but rather improper sexual relations. Eve was 'touched' (engaged in sexual relations with) Satan after he 'beguiled' (morally seduced) her. (Satan probably appeared to Eve as a handsome white god. Ps. 82:6 says the white race is a race of gods.) We also see that Eve led Adam astray as well by enticing him into having sexual relations with a member of one of the Pre-Adamic races. She gave him 'fruit' from the "Tree of KNowledge of Good and Evil' and Adam did 'eat (partake, engage in an activity).'

    Finally, Eve was to have two literal seedlines come forth from her womb. One being the 'serpents' (Satan in human form) and the other being hers through Adam. And these two seedlines are to be in direct conflict and have a deep-seated hatred of one another until the end times. Gen. 3:15 alone should point out the utter absurdity of the whole being deceived by a literal snake and eating a piece of fruit led to the Fall in the Garden story. Are we to believe that Eve had sex with a literal snake? Is our enmity and conflict with an army of scaly creatures that move along the ground? Of course not! How ridiculous would that be!? In Gen. 4:1 & 2, we read that Eve gave birth to Cain and Abel. NOw Abel was Adam's son. But Cain was not! Cain is found nowhere in any geneaology in the Bible that traces back to Adam. Read Gen. 5:3-5; 1 Chron. 1:1 and Luke 3:38. In Luke 3:38, it states that the unpolluted descendants of Adam are the sons of God (this of course is a verse tracing the geneaology of Jesus on Mary's (His blood's) side). Why is Cain not mentioned here if he was an unpolluted descendant of Adam? In Gen. 4:8-12, we read about the first major enmity between the two seedlines that was promised by God in Gen. 3:15. Here, Cain murders murders Abel. Now, in Gen. 4:25 and 5:3, we read that Adam and Eve had a son named Seth. The name 'Seth' means 'substitute.' Go to Strong's one more time! Seth was the 'substitute' for who? ABEL! Remember, Cain was driven away from Adam and Eve. So why couldn't Seth have been a 'substitute' for Cain if he was Adam and Eve's son as well? After all, he no longer lived with them. The answer is simple. Cain was NOT Adam's son! In 1 John 3:12, we read who Cain's literal, biological father is. It's Satan!

    Cain's descendants are mentioned prominently in the New Testament. In Matt. 23:35, Jesus (who was not a Jew but rather of the white Adamic race) tells the Jewish heirarchy that their people are responsible for the deaths of all the righteous that have been murdered on the earth and he begins the list of the righteous with Abel. Who killed Abel? CAIN KILLED ABEL! Remember, the black and yellow races were on the earth long before Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel. But Jesus clearly traces the bloodline of the righteous only through the white Adamic race. In Matt. 23:33, Jesus calls the Jews 'serpents.' This is an obvious reference to their literal, biological father as spoken of in Gen. chapter three. He also says that they are a Hell-bound race of people and their fate is sealed at the end of verse 33. In John 8:44, Jesus proclaims Satan as being the Jews literal, biological father. In Matt. 23:15, we see that Jesus states that Judaism (then known as the 'Tradition of the Elders' and later evolving into Babylonain Talmudic Judaism) is a religion of Hell! Finally, in Rev. 2:9 & 3:9, Jesus tells us that there will be impostor Israelites (the Jews) who are, in reality a 'synagogue of Satan.' (The word 'Jew' is a mistranslation here. The correct word is 'Judahite.' And true racial 'Judahites' are Aryan Israelites!) Thank you for reading. I welcome an open dialogue on this and other key Bible issues!

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    Seedline: Garden of Yahweh examines the "beguilement" (or seduction) of Eve by Satan and the resulting curse of Cain. This one-hour sermon features the original music of Georgia's own All She Had and will leave no doubt that “the tares are the children of the wicked one.” Pastor Visser's trendy study God Blessed The Seventh Day is included in this unique reissued version.

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    Lawless Tactics (Part #2) completes our series on the iniquitous tares by studying four "bad guys" of the Holy Bible - Cain, Balaam, Judas Iscariot and Simon Magus. To further prove that both sexes are sinful and Christians must carefully choose their spouses, this one-hour analysis cross-compares four "bad girls" from scripture - Eve, Jezebel, Rahab the harlot and Delilah of Sorek.

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    The Morning Stars (Part #3) covers the “beguilement” of Eve by Satan in the garden of Eden and the use of "worms" in Yahweh's divine Judgment. We also study several actions attributed to angels during the Apostolic Age and examine the adversarial angel that appeared to Balaam's ass. To further prove that seraphim are realistic we inspect Jesus' dealings with them during His ministry.

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    EVE GAVE ADAM AN APPLE IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN

    Though the apple has become the symbol of man's fall from grace,nowhere in the story of the temptation - recounted in Genesis 3 - is there any mention of an apple.It is simply described as ' the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden', and it has been suggested that since Adam and Eve dressed themselves in figleaves after eating the fruit, the tree may well have been a fig. The apple probably entered the story via Greek and Celtic mythology, in both of which the fruit belongs to love goddesses,and symbolises desire.When Aquila of Pontus translated the Song of Solomon from Hebrew into Greek in the 2nd century AD, he rendered ' I raised thee up under the apple tree; there my mother brought thee forth' as ' I raised thee up under the apple tree; there wast thou corrupted' - evidently taking the verse as a reference to the forbidden tree.St Jerome,translating the Old Testament into Latin,followed suit,and the idea that the fruit was an apple has persisted ever since.

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    Who did Adam eat with?

    We know Eve ate of the fruit with the serpent but who do you say Adam ate with?
    What is your opinion on this?

    a) non-white (Enosh)
    b) lilith
    c) Eve
    d) other/explain??

    Genesis 3: 1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

    2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

    3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

    4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

    5For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

    6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

    7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

    8And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

    9And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

    10And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

    11And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

    12And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

    13And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

    14And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

    15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    16Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

    17And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

    18Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

    19In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

    20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

    21Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

    22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

    23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

    24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

    - King James Version

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    Re: Who did Adam eat with?

    I'd say Lilith.
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    I agree that Adam "ate" with Eve. Adam was supposed to take dominion over the earth but allowed Satan to deceive and "eat" with his wife. Not only did he not exercise his dominion over his wife he didn't exercise his dominion over Satan.

    Quote Originally Posted by malachi83 View Post
    I would say Eve but if he did eat with Eve it was a sin at the time...because I'd say that since Eve was committing a sin,Adam would have just been taken in with Eve's sin.
    otherwise I'd have to say lilith if a theory of Adam eating with Eve doesn't hold strong...

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    I would say that he ate with Eve, because the Bible said that once Eve had eaten with Satan she went to Adam and he "ate" with her. I find the Lilith theory hard to digest becuase there is no mention of any outside "female" parties with Adam's sin, only he and Eve. There is also a third theory that Adam "ate" with Satan, i.e. that they engaged in homosexual activities but I reject this one out of hand as having no scriptural backing.
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    Re: Who did Adam eat with?

    Quote Originally Posted by malachi83 View Post
    We know Eve ate of the fruit with the serpent but who do you say Adam ate with?
    What is your opinion on this?

    a) non-white (Enosh)
    b) lilith
    c) Eve
    d) other/explain??
    d) other/explain


    How ‘bout this for an option...

    When Eve “did the deed” with the serpent, Adam stood by and watched. In this manner, he partook, or “ate,” of her sin along with her. Maybe he was pleasuring himself at the same time? Who knows? That is what people do when they partake, or “eat,” of pornography, don’t they? It’s certainly a common carnal fantasy for men—to see their woman “eat” with another partner.

    And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:6)

    For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. (1 John 2:16)

    Did pornography begin in the garden? Probably. Furthermore, we all know that those dastardly, perverted, spawn of sin are the mass producers and distributors of the porn that God’s people are still “eating” of today.

    But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (Matthew 28-30)

    Hmmm. Food for thought.

    Nice thread, Malachi. Never considered the origin of pornography before.

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